[LAU] Linux 3.2.0-rt Kernels on Debian Repos!

hermann brummer- at web.de
Sat Feb 25 08:41:28 UTC 2012


Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 22:18 -1000 schrieb david:
> On 02/24/2012 09:15 PM, hermann wrote:
> > Am Freitag, den 24.02.2012, 20:22 -1000 schrieb david:
> >> On 02/24/2012 08:10 PM, hermann wrote:
> >>> Am Samstag, den 25.02.2012, 06:19 +0100 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
> >>>> For what reason the nv driver is dropped right now?
> >>>>
> >>>> - Ralf
> >>>
> >>> The answer is simpler the you suspect:
> >>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612189
> >>
> >> Simply put it this way: Something that doesn't get maintained (probably
> >> because the egos of the developers aren't stroked so much doing
> >> maintenance than developing something new) STILL SHOULDN'T BE REMOVED
> >> WHEN IT'S THE ONLY OPTION THAT WORKS.
> >>
> >> Bah.
> >
> > That's the wrong conclusion. Maybe it strikes you hard, I understand
> > that, but don't forget that all work in debian is done for free, every
> > one do what he think is necessary.
> 
> Yah, that's the big weakness of FLOSS: only doing what some individual 
> might think is necessary (programmer scratching his or her own itches). 
> I think FLOSS audio is bitten by that problem a lot.

what did you suspect here ? 
Users are always welcome to give feedback, suggestions, or at least,
become a part of the project. That is what FLOSS is about. FLOSS isn't
about to present you a OS on a silver tablet, FLOSS will always force
you to make it work. It is community based. If you didn't help, the
community get a bit smaller, and a piece of work fail. 

what did you think why a developer develop Free Open Software ?
And what did you think why a debian maintainer do what he do ?
Do you believe they do it to suite there ego's ? 


> 
> > Also note please that nor the nv driver or the nouveau driver are
> > developed by debian, they are part of Xorg/Xf86, so also your conclusion
> > over the egos of the debian "workers" is wrong.
> 
> Same egotism problem, just different organization.

Isn't it egoism from you, to try to force people to do what "you" want? 
And try that by blame them ? I guess this way wouldn't work.

> 
> > Again, if you wish to see this package back in debian, offer your work
> > for free and just do it. or, try to find someone how do it for you.
> > Or select a distribution, witch offer this package to you.
> >
> > A un-maintained package can't be a part of the distribution. It makes no
> > mater if it is the only working solution (for you), or not.
> 
> What about packages that simply keep on working, require no maintenance, 
> etc? Do they get booted because they WORK without any changes? Like the 
> rhyme dictionary package did?
> 

Sorry, I didn't understand this question, there is no rhyme dictionary
package in debian/sid. It is un-maintained, so it is dropped. Every
package in unstable need work to be done, at least every time when a
library witch is used by the package, is changed. 

greets
hermann



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