[LAU] OT: New i7 rig, Gfx card recomendations and more.

[Kaza Kore]

OK lack of replies to that...

I think my initial tests are going to be trying to get my antiquated P4 system running on what I have. Asus P4C800-ED motherboard, 3GHz Intel P4 CPU, 2GB RAM, graphics card which I think might be knackered... If I find this to be seriously struggling (or components failed) then I will still look at a new board. Any serious thoughts on this? Think I might actually have more RAM lying around at least...

Due to the feedback on my initial choices seeming very much in the negative, even though they have mainly come from (video encoding) servers running Ubuntu linux and in use 24/7, I wonder what you people would recommend?

Budget £500-700. Items required:
Motherboard (With at least 1x old PCI slot, preferably 2. Also must have onboard RAID1. (Yes I decided to listen to the points about RAID5 even though they are very much mainly aimed at large servers, not a small, 3 hard drive array in a small system. I still want a protected RAID though!))
CPU
RAM
Graphics card
HDD x2

Case and peripherals I already have. Audio Interface is most likely to be HDSP PCI card (as that will go in the computer I will try and get working) but is not to be included in the above budget.

I know mail-lists are the best places for these types of question but for music specific stuff the forums are never as good as far as users and information goes.

Regards, Dale

From: dj_kaza at hotmail.com
To: arnold at arnoldarts.de; linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:54:44 +0000
Subject: Re: [LAU] OT: New i7 rig, Gfx card recomendations and more.










Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:19:39 +0200
From: arnold at arnoldarts.de
To: linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
Subject: Re: [LAU] OT: New i7 rig, Gfx card recomendations and more.

On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:46:49 +0000 Kaza Kore <dj_kaza at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> TL/DR:
> Z68 - works with RAID5 on SATA2 ports OK?
> RME HDSP card - PCI or PCIe?
> Gfx card recommendations??
> Or persuade me to go for a cheaper rig as I probably don't really
> need all that...
> 
> Regards, Dale.
>  		 	   		  
Regarding the raid5:
http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/
 
And we (as the business I work for) have dismissed hw-raid in general.
A while back you only got problems if your controller broke and you
didn't have the same again. Nowadays you even get problems when you
update the firmware of the controller (or when your cold-standby
doesn't have the correct fw-version). Just stay away from it.

With something that is going to be quite so mobile I really preferably 
do want to be running the OS off a RAIDed drive! Sure I could use a 
single drive and regularly ghost it to a backup one at home but this 
isn't going to help me if it gets damaged on the way to a party. Well 
guess it might if I also take the spare and backup after every event... 
RAID seems so much more suited to the job though!
 
For the Mobo: Use something from a brand known for quality. Asus might
do okayish laptops, their boards are almost as crap as asrock. For an
intel-system, why not use an intel board? The higher price is _small_
when you take the higher quality into account. High-quality boards
last much longer and work better.

Asus known as being shit? I admit I haven't done much researched into 
hardware since I built my last desktop I think in 2001 and that definitely 
didn't seem to be the consensus then. And it seems weird that we would 
chose a known poor component for video ingest servers which are to be on 
24/7, although it is already the third revision of the build. So what 
would you recommend?
 
PCI is dead, any graphics card with linux-support is good. Now the
salesman in me takes over: intel is actively supporting the
linux-community also in the graphics field, not like nvidia. Yes, we
are an intel-reseller. We only see other hardware when its broken and
the customers want us to fix it or get the data of from it.
 
Yeah PCI is definitely on the way out! But dead just yet? Almost every 
board I've looked at has at least 1 for legacy reasons. I guess the same 
was true for ISA for a while after PCI came out though and those were 
gone off 99% of boards many years ago... My thoughts were more trying 
to ensure that the support for the PCIe version of the HDSP card was as 
supported as the PCI version.

So I will look at an ATI card then :-)

Although I am slightly leaning towards trying to get my old P4 computer 
back up and working and see quite how underpowered for what I want to do 
it turns out to be. I think the graphics card is the only fully dead component...


Cheers to everybody who has responded.

Dale.
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