[LAU] Some new Bach

Dave Phillips dlphillips at woh.rr.com
Thu Feb 14 14:20:26 UTC 2013


On 02/14/2013 07:50 AM, Paul Davis wrote:

>
>
>  Bach, like more or less everyone who is a part of the "western 
> tradition", did some incredible things with harmony, and had some 
> modest accomplishments in the melodic area (*), but did essentially 
> nothing with rhythm.

"Essentially nothing" ?! With all respect, I think you might change your 
mind if you played a a lot more Bach. :)

Rhythm in Western music is not only the moment-to-moment movement of 
durational units and aggregations, it includes a macroformal component 
not often studied or understood by most listeners. Large-scale rhythm is 
a major formal factor in the design of large-form works.

I note you refer to harmony and not counterpoint, yet surely Bach's 
genius shines most brightly in that domain. And anyone who's gone 
through species counterpoint knows the deep importance of rhythm in the 
practice.

It's a commonplace to disparage the apparent lack of rhythmic innovation 
in the works of the 19th century orchestral masters, but considerably 
more goes on at higher levels than is typically understood. The surface 
rhythmic activity of early Stravinsky and Bartok tends to be very 
attractive after the apparent blandness of Ze Germans, but I'm learning 
(via some articles by Roger Sessions, if you're interested) that those 
old guys had some pretty subtle ideas about rhythm too.

>
> It is entirely possible to fully respect the incredible work of 
> western composers while also acknowledging that "music" begins and 
> ends in places far outside anywhere that they (or any other single 
> musical culture) have ever explored.
>

True that. I'm spending a fair amount of these days listening to qawwali 
by Nusrat Khan and other singers in that tradition. Extraordinary stuff. 
Of course, it can be logically argued that it does essentially nothing 
with harmony, but that's not what I'm listening for in that music.

Best,

dp



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