[LAU] Account issues

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 20 November 2014 07:55:56 Ralf Mardorf did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:48:53 +0100
> 
> Set Hallstrأ¶m <sakrecoer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > A user has got the choice to turn it off or on, to receive mails
> > > sent to a mailman mailing list by her/him.
> > 
> > I can't seem to find where to do this setting? Link anyone, please?
> 
> Perhaps a misunderstanding? I wasn't talking about gmail, I was talking
> about the mailman feature, that is available if you log in your LAU
> account.

Absolutely zero miss-understanding here. Because this delete duplicates 
cannot be turned off, gmail is about as worthless as tits on a boor hog 
for mailing list use, precisely because you never get the message back 
proving it made the list. So the un-aware keeping pinging the list trying 
to get a reply from the list.  Tain't gonna happen and eventuatlly 
somebody will point out, in unpleasant language, that yes, we seen all 4 
of your messages, but apparently nobody wants to do your homework for you.

I've a gmail account too, don't use it precisely for that reason.  People 
suggest you train your email agent to save a copy in the list folder, but 
that to me doesn't prove it was actually seen by the list subscribers.  
Perhaps it can be so trained.  By I am not enough of a Christian Scientist 
to think I could believe with 100% certainty that my mail actually was 
seen by the list unless I SEE a reply FROM that list.

Any ISP worth their daily salt, really should have & maintain their own 
email server, and I consider that as part and parcel of the monthly fee I 
pay for the net access.

Unfortunately for some, their popcorn & peanuts ISP sees that as a huge 
headache because of all the UCE, so they, when they get a chance to farm 
that whole problem off to google for x bucks a month, they are just 
propagating the problem onto their unsuspecting customers.  I bitch 
because my own ISP has done that, nearly 2 years ago.  So I don't use that 
alias anymore than for personal stuff.  Fortunately for me, I have a 
lifetime account at my former employers, who have maintained their own 
mail server since 1999 and while doesn't use any such rules.  Not very 
well filtered, spamassassin kills 100+ UCE's on an average day and lets 
250 more pass.  But they get fed to sa-learn by a cron script, so 
spamassassin is gradually getting smarter.

Moral of the story IS:
Don't use gmail for a mailing list.  Period.


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