[LAU] [Bulk] Re: Electric pop music engineering history - Was: Mix feedback on a new track?

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com
Sat Oct 4 17:55:51 UTC 2014

On Sat, 2014-10-04 at 10:19 -0700, Len Ovens wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > but they did not want it identified as a "machine". To solve this
> > problem, Pat used the AUTO PAN setting of the SPX90 to keep the
> > sixteenth note RX11 high-hat pattern moving, making it harder to focus
> > on this track."
> Hiding

Sure :D, it doesn't solve the problem :D. What really could eliminate
some unwanted effects is a microsecond tuned delay for the reverb.
Unfortunately I'm not aware about a Linux reverb that sounds good +
providing microsecond tune-able delay, before the reverb starts. Using a
good reverb for all instruments (available for Linux, by Fons), but fine
tuning the delay, before the reverb starts just taking care about the
drum machines hi-hat, could fix a lot ... AFAIK this fine tuning can't
be done by good Linux reverbs, external gear is needed or maybe a
combination of a delay and a reverb ... I simply use 19" stand alone

> , but really fixing the problem. It does depend on the effect the 
> musician is trying to produce.
> > That's just promotion, but using panning, usually MIDI control instead
> > of a noise effect unit, was really one method used to avoid the
> > machine-gun effect (just naming it "machine" in the sense of "drum
> > machine" is an understatement/downplaying of the issue).
> In my case, I did mean machine. Machine gun would be something I use to 
> refer to drum rolls  :) But in this case, the HH is not straight timed 
> notes. The timing shows quite a lot of variation. It is the sameness of 
> the sound I was refering to.
> This has taught me how much musicianship the average drummer puts into 
> their playing. I certainly never thought about it when I was playing as 
> the body movements are more subconsious than I thought. It is no wonder 
> drummers choose drums over pads.

A friend is very gifted Jazz drummer, I hate to hear him playing the new
Roland pads, the sound is much more pleasant, when he plays his 70s
natural drum gear, but those modern e-drums aren't that bad as e.g. the
Dauz drum pad I own, at least not when a gifted drummer plays this gear.

At home I need to play guitar without an amp and I'm not one of those
guys who guess that amp emulations can replace an amp. At home I can't
play drums ... ok, I can't play drums where ever I'm ;), anyway, we
sometimes aren't in optimal situations and need to use tricks, that
_HIDE_ or better _MASK_ serious issues.

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