[LAU] [Bulk] Re: Lossy audio to lossless format

Raffaele Morelli raffaele.morelli at gmail.com
Mon Oct 6 05:11:48 UTC 2014


On 06/10/14 at 01:47am, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 05, 2014 at 12:40:51PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 09:14 -0400, Paul Davis wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >         
> > >         Your ears are probably the best tool. Some hear well, and some
> > >         do not.
> > >         I am amazed at the number of people who cannot tell if mp3 has
> > >         ever been
> > >         in the mix. To me its obvious, when your ears get tired of it,
> > >         and want to
> > >         "change the station" in just a minute or so, its been an mp3
> > >         at some
> > >         point.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > For crying out loud, stop this nonsense!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It is established without any shadow of a doubt that the overwhelming
> > > majority of the population CANNOT tell the difference between a
> > > reasonable bit-rate encoding in mp3 format and the original PCM data.
> > > This isn't up for debate.
> > 
> > For crying out loud, stop this nonsense Paul!
> > 
> > Just because several people can't distinguish cheese made of raw milk
> > with cheese made from heated milk, doesn't mean that the tests are ok.
> > I'm unable to stand heated milk, I'm unable to stand cheese made from
> > heated mild and I'm unable to stand MP3. Yes, there are double-blind
> > tests that confirm that people guess the real taste of a strawberry is
> > the artificial taste and that the natural taste is artificial. IOW if
> > you make double-blind tests with degenerated idiots, the results will be
> > idiotic.
> > 
> > Please post links about MP3 double-blind test done with human beings who
> > still remember how a real strawberry or banana yogurt does taste, who
> > know how a real Camembert made from raw milk does taste.
> > 
> > What group of people was unable to distinguish between a good recording
> > and a MP3?
> 
> Spot on Ralf! You've said it way better than I ever could. 
> Once you've actually *heard* good sound, an MP3 coming from a computer
> just doesn't cut it.
> 

ie spot on your cognitive dissonance ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance  )

BTW, what if you all claiming this ridicoulus thing about being able to
distinguish beetween 256-320kbps (mp3) or 500kbps (ogg) meet each other at next
LAU and have a public test? I would really enjoy this double blind test with no
"degenerated idiots" around.

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