Joel Roth joelz at pobox.com
Tue Jan 6 19:04:10 UTC 2015

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> To avoid pulseaudio there are several solutions. Avoiding systemd
> likely will be impossible soon. 

Actually, there are quite a few people working on providing
systemd-free packages, at least for Debian.

There are about a dozen packages that depend on systemd,
such as dbus, pulse-audio, avahi-daemon, udisk. Once these bottom-level
packages are freed, the whole software stack is liberated,
with the exception of the Gnome desktop environment.

You can see some of the dependencies (of Debian packages)


> At least the kernel is protected
> against some rash implementations, since Linus Torvalds doesn't like
> Kay Sievers that much. However, if you want to stay with Linux, get
> used to binary log files and other hard changes of Linux policies.
> Unlikely that in the close future Linux still will work without
> systemd. Assumed it should still work without systemd, at least
> initscripts likely need a replacement.

Up to now, initscripts work with sysvinit. Also, there is an
excellent project to replace udev, designed to be portable
to *BSD unices. 



Joel Roth

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