[LAU] Electrical violin?

Paul Davis paul at linuxaudiosystems.com
Thu Jun 4 14:33:23 UTC 2015


Y'all need to up your game just a little:

http://www.electricviolinshop.com/blog/featured-artists/radha/#sthash.vMCHiW0M.dpbs

:)

(L. Shankar is a particular personal favorite of mine)

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:29 AM, Peter Finnegan <peter.c.finnegan at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> Message: 9
>> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 16:36:01 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Len Ovens <len at ovenwerks.net>
>> To: linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [LAU] Electrical violin?
>> Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1506031556430.2517 at scott.cbbs.org>
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>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2015, Gabriel Nordeborn wrote:
>>
>> > Does anyone have experience with electrical violins? I might be looking
>> to buy
>> > one, although I don't know how to play the violin, but I'd really
>> really like to
>> > have one and try to learn. But, for my girlfriend and neighbour's sake,
>> I'm
>> > looking primarily at electrical ones.
>>
>> I am not a player either, but do know that for some notes a lot of the
>> sound comes from the bridge and not the body. That is that an electric may
>> be quieter than an acoustic, but still much louder than an electric guitar
>> in the same way an electric guitar is louder (acoustically) than an
>> electric bass. Are there no big name music stores you can rent one from
>> for a week or so? or at least try one out in the store? Do you have any
>> friends that play?
>>
>> I saw this one:
>>
>>
>> http://www.kkmusicstore.com/cecilio-cevn1bk-black-metallic-size-44-34-or-12-electric-silent-violin-in-style-1-case-lesson-book-w-dvd-bow-more-p-377.html?zenid=94d12e24dd5f843574fb1e5d7700acf2
>>
>> Which (as the reviewer said) is cheap enough to be a throw away... that is
>> renting will eat up that much ($130) pretty quick. (and much cheaper than
>> a reasonable acoustic model)
>>
>> I would compare a violin to a mandolin (which I do have), but I realize
>> that the violin is generally one note at a time so the trouble I have with
>> stumbling over my big fingers on the mandolin may be reduced. :)
>>
>> --
>> Len Ovens
>> www.ovenwerks.net
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 21:21:29 -0700
>> From: David Christensen <dpchrist at holgerdanske.com>
>> To: linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
>> Subject: Re: [LAU] Shielded electrical wiring for studio (or not)
>> Message-ID: <556FD249.5060802 at holgerdanske.com>
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>> On 06/02/2015 06:32 AM, Glen MacArthur wrote:
>> > ... I've received a few mic
>> > shocks to the lips over the years when I used to run a vintage amp
>> without
>> > a ground (it only had a ground lift toggle switch)... It didn't take me
>> > long to upgrade the wiring to a fully grounded cord.. :)..
>>
>> I'm curious -- if an electric guitar amplifier has a two-conductor power
>> supply cord (with hot and neutral conductors only) and a "ground lift"
>> switch, what does the switch do?
>>
>>
>> Can you provide an example make and model that has a schematic available
>> on the web?  For example:
>>
>>      http://www.thevintagesound.com/ffg/
>>
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:19:48 -0700
>> From: Sean Bolton <sean at smbolton.com>
>> Cc: linux-audio-user at lists.linuxaudio.org
>> Subject: Re: [LAU] Electrical violin?
>> Message-ID: <20150603221948.10d6b5fb at shams.smbolton.com>
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>>
>>
>> On Wed Jun  3 2015, Len Ovens wrote:
>> > I saw this one:
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.kkmusicstore.com/cecilio-cevn1bk-black-metallic-size-44-34-or-12-electric-silent-violin-in-style-1-case-lesson-book-w-dvd-bow-more-p-377.html?zenid=94d12e24dd5f843574fb1e5d7700acf2
>>
>> I have one of these, for the very reason that I can practice on it when
>> the wife and kid are in bed. It's not silent, but quite a bit quieter
>> than an acoustic violin with a practice mute.
>>
>> What you should know if you're considering something like this: when I
>> received this, the strings were too high for it to be easily playable
>> (even the Chinese can't make a violin for this price and pay someone to
>> set it up properly.) I spent about three hours lowering the bridge and
>> reshaping the nut so it would play well. A professional luthier might
>> do the same for you for $60-100. I also spent $20 on a new Wittner
>> tailpiece so I'd have fine tuners that would turn easily. I then put
>> an old set of synthetic-core strings on it, as I prefer those to the
>> steel ones it came with. I'm now really happy with it as a
>> quiet-practice violin.
>>
>> But I never plug it in. One reviewer on Amazon said it sounded like a
>> sewing machine, and as soon as I tried it (through the headphones or an
>> amp), I knew what they were talking about. Every time you change bow
>> direction, there's a thump, and the sound from the strings is kind of
>> thin, so as you're playing it's wheee-thump-thump-thump-thump.
>>
>> So you get what you pay for. I'd expect to spend $600 or more for an
>> electric that arrives well set up and sounds halfway decent. Check out
>> the Yamaha Silent Violins--I though even the low-end model was fairly
>> decent.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>>
>> Another lifelong violinist chiming in here :)  I personally prefer my
> acoustic violin amplified by microphone and good soundman. However I have
> used a Barcus-Berry pickup for convenience and for those smaller gigs when
> playing in a combo and everyone brings their own amp.
>
> I would try this one out, though:
> http://www.sharmusic.com/Instruments/Electric/Beginning-0--550/SHAR-Electric-Violin-Outfit.axd#sthash.0o7K1wR6.0BeX9eAF.dpbs
>
>
> I have used Shar for years for violin gear; they specialize in bowed
> strings and even their low end instruments are playable.
>
>
> -Best wishes
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter Finnegan
> http://finneganmusic.net
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