[LAU] The future of audio plugins ?

Emanuele Rusconi emarsk at gmail.com
Tue Oct 18 19:01:44 UTC 2016


Hi jonetsu, I'm trying to follow the discussion but I still can't figure
out what you'd like to achieve. Bear in mind that I'm a user, not a
developer - although not COMPLETELY clueless, so maybe I'm missing
something here.

You talked about plugins that "apply themselves as a group to an audio
track, to stems, to a whole session". That's what buses are for, unless I
misunderstood what you mean.

You talked about a suite of plugins which auto-configure themselves based
on track analysis. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that doesn't require (just)
inter-plugin communication, it requires that the entire suite is developed
together as a unit, you can't just make different random plugins talk
together and magically "make a decision together" - whatever that means -
(hence Paul Davis' fist comment: "[to] do what they want, they need their
own DAW").
And then there's the major issue that others pointed out: to configure
themselves in a meaningful manner, the plugins must be able to analyse not
only the audio, but also the engineer's mind to know what he wants to
achieve.

> it is at the mixing engineer level.  Not at the stage of personalizing
the characteristics of individual sounds
Personalizing the sound IS part of and HAS impact on the mixing stage, it's
the goal that no auto-configuring plugin can read in your mind.

> I don't see what would be wrong with having a set of presets that
supposedly replicates a certain guitarist setup.
I agree here, nothing wrong with (good) presets. But that's something we
can already have. Look at Guitarix for example, you can have presets that
tie together different tools: compressor, overdrive, amp emulator, cabinet
emulator, etc.. And you can do that because those tools are developed to
work tightly together, they are like different parameters of one big
plugin. And, again, I'm not sure what data would they need to share in your
vision.

To me, it looks like you're pointing at the moon at noon: sorry but either
the moon is somewhere else or I just can't see it anyway.
You keep talking about plugins communicating together, but to me it's not
clear WHAT would they supposedly communicate.
You keep saying "making decisions" as if it would mean anything clear but,
unless you explain it better, it sounds like either marketing fluff or
bad-by-design auto-configuration.
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