[LAU] Off-topic: "A look at how the Behringer Model D compares with the Minimoog"

[robertlazarski]

On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net>
wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Jun 2018 21:56:26 -1000, david wrote:
> >Sometimes I think the whole purpose of DAWs and VSTs and synths is to
> >make it possible for someone sitting at home with no budget to write
> >for whole symphony orchestras *and hear something like it* without
> >spending the large amount of money needed to have an orchestra
> >actually perform a piece.
> >
> >Being such a person, I'm not complaining. ;)
>

That is what midi and digital audio is good at. For me I am on computers
too much already so for that I use an Access Virus and a Korg workstation
sequencer.


>
> Keep in mind, I'm a fan of real Curtis CEM based analog synth as well
> as I like real non-analog iconic synth, such as the real old DX7 or
> the TG33 with it's vector control. With modern emulations you can't get
> all those original sounds, it at least does feel different when playing
> those beasts live, compared to virtual synth, OTOH emulations become
> better and better. Arturia and Nord are amazing PC/tablet PC synth
> and/or stand alone hardware synth. At the moment I usually prefer
> latest emulations over original synth. Not all oldish analog synth
> provide the nice controls mentioned by robertlazarski. I own an Oberheim
> Matrix-1000, it only provides MIDI IOs and an audio output and the only
> potentiometer is to control the volume. A lot of people replaced a lot
> of analog synth with a few Oberheim Matrix-1000 in the end of the 80s,
> just using the factory presets, without a MIDI controller.
>

That's cool you have a Matrix-1000. About those Curtis Chips ...

This is where I have hope for Behringer as a few years ago they bought a
big chip company. The sweet and short poly analogs of the 80's - Oberheim
Xpander and Matrix 12, Roland Jupiter 4 and 8 etc - to varying degrees were
analog chip based. I have a hard time seeing how a chip based clone could
come up short.

For example. this is the Xpander. This is the one I want to see come back:

*Xpander <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberheim_Xpander>*: 6x CEM3374 Dual
VCO, 6x CEM3372 Filter/Mix/VCA

Best regards,
Robert
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