[LAU] pipewire update, was Re: Need MIDI keyboard for Zoom Class

Roger gurusonic at gmail.com
Fri Sep 25 04:03:40 CEST 2020


On 25/9/20 11:01 am, David W. Jones wrote:
>
> Or Debian, and either one without any dependencies on the GNOME desktop evironment.
>
> On September 24, 2020 2:21:45 PM HST, Bob van der Poel <bob at mellowood.ca> wrote:
>> First I've heard of this. Would be nice to have it all unified! Wonder
>> how long it'll take to migrate it's way down to Ubuntu?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 6:33 AM Will Godfrey wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:57:14 -0500
>>> "Chris Caudle" <chris at chriscaudle.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, September 23, 2020 6:24 pm, Chris Caudle wrote:
>>>>> Pipewire is intended to replace jackd, not work with jackd.
>>>> Recent article on the current state of pipewire:
>>>>
>> https://blogs.gnome.org/uraeus/2020/09/04/pipewire-late-summer-update-2020/
>>> Looks very positive. I notice someone asked about auto reconnecting
>>> audio
>>> devices. If that can be done it would be fantastic. I've had a few
>>> wobbly USB plugs/sockets in the past!

Pipewire has already appeared during an upgrade in my siduction (Debian 
Sid) system. I guess it's a new dependency for another installed package 
but not sure which. I haven't tried to use it yet.

One thing that disturbs me about Pipewire is it claims on 
https://pipewire.org/ :

"PipeWire was designed with a powerful security model that makes 
interacting with audio and video devices from containerized applications 
easy, with supporting Flatpak applications being the primary goal"

I'm trying to avoid any containerised applications as I believe they are 
a backward step for Linux although I can see the appeal of universal 
packaging rather than having to build different packages for each Linux 
variety - .deb, .rpm, .tar.gz etc. The sheer size of containerised 
packages is mind-boggling and for flatpak and snap they need hundreds of 
extra MB just for runtime environments.

I don't need no steenkin' flatpaks!

I have PulseAudio and JACK running quite nicely together now, thank you. 
Not quite click n' run but close to it these days. Pulse already has the 
ability to start JACK modules automatically if they are installed. I 
remain sceptical about Pipewire being any improvement for my use case.

Roger


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