[LAU] Desktop replacements for ROX applications

david gnome at hawaii.rr.com
Tue Nov 16 05:10:42 CET 2021

On 11/15/21 5:48 AM, Will Godfrey wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 12:43:13 -1000
> "David W. Jones" <gnome at hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>> I use XFCE. I have Trinity running on a VM. XFCE is better and lighter.
>> On November 14, 2021 10:27:48 AM HST, Brandon Hale <bthaleproductions at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've never run Rox, but I just took a look at it. Maybe some
>>> alternatives that could be very similar in functionality are:
>>> GNUStep
>>> LXDE
>>> Trinity Desktop (KDE3 Revived)
>>> Mate Desktop (Gnome 2 Revived)
>>> These all have their own applications I do believe and have a retro and
>>> lightweight feel to them. I know for a fact that LXDE will run on a
>>> potato. I use it on an old Acer Aspire One netbook. I run mate on my
>>> main machine and it uses modern gtk3 and is fast and featureful (just
>>> like I remember it back in 2009)!
>>> I hope this helps. You can also pick and choose which applications you
>>> like best from all of these and run the ones that you like.
>>> Brandon Hale
>>> On 11/14/21 14:58, Will Godfrey wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 10:37:25 -0700
>>>> Bob van der Poel <bob at mellowood.ca> wrote:
>>>>> Not to state the obvious ... but you could install Python2. 3 and 2 live
>>>>> quite happily together.
>>>>> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 8:27 AM Will Godfrey <willgodfrey at musically.me.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> For very many years I've been using the combination of OpenBox and ROX.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> has provided a very lightweight and user-friendly interface. It's also
>>>>>> a good fit for the Raspberry Pi, and users unfamiliar with Linux seem to
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> to it quickly. However...
>>>>>> ROX filer itself is still fine after all this time, but ROX-Lib relies on
>>>>>> Python-2, so all apps using it are now dead - as is the rox -users list :(
>>>>>> I can get round most of the ones I use but the two I need are desktop
>>>>>> replacements for are the Archiving program (which handles a laundry list of
>>>>>> formats) and screen resolution manager (based on XrandR).
>>>>>> The usual web searches don't seem to show up anything useful.
>>>>>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>>> Well, that proved rather interesting. The upgrade (devuan chimaera to be
>>>> precise) removed python2 and, critically, python-gtk2, but it left the old
>>>> entries in apt/sources.list so I was able to reinstall them. That's a bit more
>>>> breathing space, but the axe is bound to fall at some point, so I'd still like
>>>> to find alternatives.
>>>> The archiver is particularly good for newbies. It's drag-and-drop. Drop a
>>>> compressed file on it and it will decompress it, drop a plain file on it and it
>>>> will put up a menu of compression types. In both cases it *doesn't* delete the
>>>> source.
> While I appreciate the suggestions for LXDE or XFCE, while both are
> indeed lightweight, are a good fit for the overall setup, which is quite
> deliberately RISCOS-like (which makes rather a good environment for an R-Pi).
> I've been able to find a screen resolution program that works well, and is
> indeed better than the original! That leaves just the archiver. This is a
> hard nut to crack. I can't find anything that is simply drag and drop.
> Possibly I could code this myself, but I've got quite enough on my plate as it
> is :(
If you really need python2 in Debian (and probably Devuan), a friend of 
mine said you need a package called "python-is-python2". That supplies 
the python2 runtime.

David W. Jones
gnome at hawaii.rr.com
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