Consortium February 2004

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24 participants
18 discussions

by Daniel James

Hello all, I've been talking to a couple of companies about loan hardware for libre software developers. Does anyone have suggestions about how we might distribute this fairly, given that members are geographically distributed? The best two options I can think of are: 1. Set up a 'centre of excellence' which builds up a good collection of hardware - this might be at a university, or in part of a commercial studio complex perhaps. 2. Loan the hardware for a fixed period of time, after which it gets sent on to the next person who needs it. I think the drawbacks to each option are fairly obvious. What do you lot think? Cheers Daniel

21 years, 10 months

Linuxaudio.org Management Board

by Daniel James

Hello all, I believe we need to convene a meeting (on-line) of the linuxaudio.org management board. The issue has come up that some companies and organisations seem unable to join the consortium because of clause 6 in the policy document. It reads: "Members of the Linuxaudio.org consortium agree not to sue other members, or otherwise instigate prosecutions of members, following a dispute over reverse engineering." http://linuxaudio.org/en/policy.html I don't think it's that these companies want to sue developers - it's just that they are unable to promise not to sue. I'd like to see the management board address the question of whether this clause is worth keeping, and if so whether it's more important than wider membership. Two companies have explicitly stated that this clause is the reason why they cannot join the consortium. One university department has said that it cannot commit to agreements of this nature on behalf of the entire institution, and therefore cannot join either. It seems likely that other companies and organisations may also be prevented from joining by this clause. The current members of the management board are: Dave Phillips (Chair) Patrick Shirkey (Boost Hardware) Christian Schaller (GStreamer) Jan Depner (JAMin) Ron Parker (Mirror Image) Steve Harris (plugin.org.uk) Linuxaudio.org participants who have not yet nominated a representative: AGNULA ALSA Ardour Audacity Core Sound dyne:bolic Fervent Software 4Front Technologies JACK Linux Audio Systems Lionstracs Mandrakesoft Rosegarden Naturally, we can only have one person representing each project or company, otherwise there could be problems with multiple votes. Management board discussions are intended to take place on a dedicated mailing list: http://lists.linuxaudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/management The list has public archives but membership is open only to board members. (As linuxaudio.org director, I am subscribed for information purposes, but of course I have no vote in management decisions). If those projects who have not yet nominated a representative would like to do so, I can add those people to the management board mailing list. They can also subscribe themselves, but the subscription will still have to be approved by the list admins (myself and Andrea Glorioso of the Agnula project). Cheers Daniel James Director http://linuxaudio.org

21 years, 10 months

well then

by Chris Cannam

Hope everyone made it home safely after the expo. I'm absolutely shattered myself, butI suspect that has more to do with getting pissed every night than anything else. Ah well. I have a few photos, which I'll probably put up with a short report on linuxmusician.com (or anywhere else anyone would like). I just have to work up the energy to write the short report, that's all. Daniel, many thanks for organising the stand -- and to AGNULA for sponsoring it. (Damien, did you get your MIDI cable back? I'm afraid I forgot about it, and I haven't got around to sorting through the box of cables properly yet -- although I did notice I seem to have gained an extra power strip -- whose was that?) Also, my apologies to Bob for being such a doofus and not getting the point with LADCCA/LASH. (In my defence, Bob, you really do need a nice simple description of how it's actually intended to work from the user's point of view, I mean in terms of starting and stopping sessions, saving files etc.) Anyway I'll have to mull that one over a bit and see what we can do about it -- I'll probably have more questions for you but I haven't the brains to think about technical stuff at the moment. Now, back to the coffee pot. Chris

21 years, 10 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] MLP DVD playing back on Linux

by Daniel James

> Do I understand well, MLP-compressed DVD can not be played back > free on Linux, because of MLP algorithm is patented? There may well patents on the technology, but that doesn't mean that a libre software decoder is impossible, just more difficult. I think patents on some parts of MLP were applied for, but I don't know if they were granted yet. Patents within standards can be licenced on a royalty-free basis - it's at the discretion of the patent holder, as I understand it. Meridian is mostly a hardware company, but they do sell MLP software encoders for Windows, so there is the potential for competition from a libre software tool. However, Meridian may be interested in seeing their format adopted as widely as possible, especially since DVD-A is not yet a mainstream format. I suggest you read up on MLP using these white papers by Bob Stuart, if you haven't already: http://www.meridian-audio.com/lib_pap.htm then make an enquiry to Meridian about Linux encoder/player support, open standards etc etc. I'd be very interested to hear the response, and I'm sure others would be too. Cheers Daniel

21 years, 10 months

Re: [linux-audio-user] a bit of a report on sounds expo 2004

by Daniel James

Just to add my observations... The event visitors were very curious about the software - as I expected, they'd mostly heard about Linux audio but hadn't seen it actually working; that's a big difference. My favourite quotes? 1. I use Linux at work but I didn't realise it had a graphical interface. 2. I use Debian at home but I didn't know there were any audio applications for it. 3. It looks really good but - (intake of breath) - how much does it cost? 4. I can't believe I'm really meeting Steve Harris! The response to our stand from other exhibitors was really positive, with the exception of Mark of the Unicorn. We had a lot of enquiries about using ALSA with MOTU hardware, and I took the opportunity of asking the MOTU representative directly. The answer was a straight no - they don't want to release any source code, they don't want third party drivers written and they don't want to support any platforms other than Mac and Windows. By contrast, M Audio were very supportive, and we also made good contacts with AMD, the BBC, Matrox and smaller companies. I'd really encourage Linux users and developers to hold similar stands at the equivalent events in other countries - a number of people asked us if we would be at Musikmesse in Frankfurt am Main (31st March - 3rd April): http://musik.messefrankfurt.com/frankfurt/de/ If anyone would like to co-ordinate an approach to the organisers to see if we can take part, please get in touch. Cheers Daniel

21 years, 10 months

Re: Sounds Expo

by Daniel James

Hello, Just a quick note to say thanks for hosting the GNU/Linux Audio Centre at Sounds Expo. We talked to a lot of people and made some very good industry contacts too, so I hope we'll be able to be involved again next time. Cheers Daniel

21 years, 10 months

Re: [Consortium] GStreamer and Pro-audio

by Andy Wingo

Hi Steve, Thanks for the response. I had no idea that doc would make it out your way, I'm a bit embarrased ;) Allow me to apologize for not being on consortium@, these days I only get a couple hours of internet a week... On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 19:19, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > From: Steve Harris <S.W.Harris(a)ecs.soton.ac.uk> > Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 15:18:53 +0000 > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 03:59:02 +0100, Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller wrote: > > Hi, > > I just thought I send the list this link to a document written by Andy > > Wingo about GStreamer and where we stand in regards to pro-audio. > > The doc is a mix of where we are/what we are focusing on. > > Interesting, but he doesnt mention the part of gstreamer that truely > problematic for "pro" audio - synchronisation. I assume you mean synchronization with external clock sources (as opposed to between different internal streams, like audio and video). I think, and I could be wrong, that this isn't really a problem. GStreamer is, as you probably know, a library for data flow _within an application_. In the simple case (the one I'd use), your GStreamer app can be a Jack client, and all of the sync is handled in Jack. Transport support (for informational purposes, or for master purposes) is not yet implemented, but would be done via a custom clock. The internal clocking infrastructure would handle the rest. If you want to do this via the ALSA interface... well you'd have to code a lot on the alsa plugin. But again, this isn't a GStreamer problem, per se. It's just for plugins. If we can synchronise audio and video together and to their respective outputs, the framework has the generality to do so to any fixed clock. Does this answer anything, or am I missing the mark? I haven't yet had the opportunity to test synchronization properly. This inexperience is a soft spot for GStreamer, but I hope a temporary one :) > I agree that "pro" audio is a horrible term Any better one? Could you just say "float audio"? Dunno... Thanks for the comments, -- Andy Wingo <wingo(a)pobox.com>

21 years, 10 months

Material and demos Sound Expo

by Damien Cirotteau

Greetings all, Do we have list of the material which will be at Sound Expo? There was this discussion about the power supply 2 weeks ago, but I didn't find a complete list of the material. I personally plan to bring a PC laptop + an RME Hamerfall, but I won't be able to bring some monitors. Will we have mixer + monitors? I will also bring a pair of headphones. I can also manage to bring a small MIDI keyboard (2 octaves + knobs) but if somebody else already bring one it is maybe enough (and I won't need to bring it in the plane). About the demos, is there a global strategie? Will we run one computer with the differents software installed on it, or do we run several computers to show each software (our AGNULA case is slightly different as we don't show a specific software but a global distribution). The second solution raise the problem of space, power supply, acoustic level and/or confusion. Let me know if all of this has already been discuted. best, damien

21 years, 10 months

Re: Sounds Expo Hotel

by Daniel James

Hi Damien, > Thanks a lot for the offer but I already have a reservation at the > Quality Hotels Wembley. That's fine - as long as you've got somewhere to stay! > I will arrive monday evening. Maybe we can arrange to meet > ourselves monday From my experience of travelling across London you will be arriving at your hotel quite late. It might be best for you if we meet at the Expo on the Tuesday morning before it opens. I suggest you call me on 0770 922 9254 and I'll meet you at the door with your badge. > I guess you will probably be at the booth to > prepare it. Yes indeed! > My plane arrives at Gatwick at 07:00 PM, I don't know > at what time I will be at Wembley (actually I have to check how to > reach Wembley...). Gatwick is quite far to the south of the city and Wembley is in the north-west. Your best bet is probably to get a train into central London, then take whichever train or underground line that your hotel recommends (there are a number of stations in that area). Cheers Daniel

21 years, 10 months

PR Newswire

by Brian Thomson

I get press releases and other news sent to me every day, thanks to an agreement my employer has with Factiva, who get their press releases from PR Newswire (http://www.prnewswire.com/). This includes plenty of Linux news, big and small, so I was thinking that LinuxAudio could take advantage of this to get their important news out, e.g. the Sounds Expo visit next week. The good news is that any individual or organization can register with them and distribute their press releases globally: the bad news is that it costs $125 a year to do so. So, this is sonething to keep in mind for the future, perhaps. Thanks, Brian Thomson Dublin, Ireland -- (this is not a signature)

21 years, 11 months

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