> Please don't get me wrong here, I do appreciate the linuxaudio.org
> effort, and all the work you (and maybe others) are putting into it.
>
> My emotions indicate that I want to help, but my brain keeps on telling
> me that freebob already takes too much time. I guess these sort of
> things should be done by LAU's rather than LAD's (not that LAD's aren't
> LAU's), but they might be a little to busy making music... something
> that I'd like to do a little more.
I think everyone here who knows Linux audio knows the significance of your
contributions and I am not even suggesting that you personally should
implement these changes on the lao site (although greater involvement in
day-to-day discussion/feedback would be certainly appreciated as it should
not be much more overhead than what your today's posts on LAU lists were).
However, there were certainly more polite ways of expressing your
suggestions for improvements, such as the one included from your latest
e-mail below.
The irony is that while this is being piped to the LAU lists, I do not see
any users raising their hands to help either...
> I suggest a link "Portal" under the "Contact" link at the left of
> linuxaudio.org.
That can be done. However, there should be a way for all sites to share the
same format/cross-linking info, otherwise the effect of the suggested
alteration will be rather minimal. In other words, it will be only a matter
of time before someone else asks the same question on LAU/LAD lists...
Best wishes,
Ico
While I agree that linuxaudio.org sites could benefit from a sidebar or some
other common tool that binds them more together, I honestly do not see such
a thing happening until:
1) community gets more involved, even if that means simple
feedback/communication on the consortium list (i.e. recently we posted final
proposed version of the CD cover and got no feedback whatsoever--whether due
to apathy, disinterest, or something else, I am not sure, needless to
mention that most of our members do not bother posting their announcements
on the consortium list).
2) other sites which are hosted under the linuxaudio.org do not respond as
if their individuality is being threatened every time there is even the most
remote allusion to the idea that there should be some kind of
unifying/cross-linking framework for the sub-sites.
Recently, I spent a couple of days just dealing with porting of mailing
lists (OSX server, don't get me started...), while helping Thorsten revise
the CD cover for Vol.1 of Made in Linux Series, now I see that the main
linuxaudio.org site needs new news posts regarding recent announcements. And
this is how the story goes, instead of me trying to plan things that will
have a much greater impact (i.e. fund-raising, incorporation), I am always
sidetracked with micro-management since everyone in the LA* community thinks
linuxaudio.org is a great idea but very few want to help out. Even the few
volunteers we got in the fall, out of the ones who did not fizzle out, we
are yet to get *a* contribution...
All that being said, the consortium is keeping as busy as always and is
using whatever limited resources it has to the fullest potential. We should
be announcing our contributions soon. Also FWIW, portal.linuxaudio.org has
been announced on linuxaudio.org site (see main page), the one site over
which consortium has direct control.
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Linuxaudio.org Director
Virginia Tech
Department of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-1137
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico(a)linuxaudio.org
http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu [mailto:linux-audio-
> user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Pieter Palmers
> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 10:59 AM
> To: A list for linux audio users
> Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] sites at linuxaudio.org
>
> Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
> > portal.linuxaudio.org
>
> which you have to know to find it?
>
> Greets,
>
> Pieter
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
> > Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, and CHCI
> > Virginia Tech
> > Dept. of Music - 0240
> > Blacksburg, VA 24061
> > (540) 231-1137
> > (540) 231-5034 (fax)
> > ico(a)vt.edu
> > http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic/
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: linux-audio-user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu [mailto:linux-audio-
> >> user-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Pieter Palmers
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 4:34 AM
> >> To: A list for linux audio users
> >> Subject: [linux-audio-user] sites at linuxaudio.org
> >>
> >> I was just now looking for some links with respect to low latency
> >> configuration to put on the freebob site. I knew that there are some
> >> sites *.linuxaudio.org, but I had to use my memory & a gamble to find
> >> them (lau.linuxaudio.org, lad.linuxaudio.org).
> >>
> >> Wouldn't it be good if the main linuxaudio.org site had a link to all
> >> the sub-sites available?
> >>
> >> Greets,
> >>
> >> Pieter
> >
> >
Aldrin is an open source modular music sequencer/tracker for the GNU/Linux operating system.
We're proud to announce the release of Aldrin 0.9 (Mercury).
This release marks the end of Aldrin's "carnivore" cycle, a development
line that was oriented towards a faithful imitation of Jeskola Buzz.
"Mercury" is the first release of the "planet" cycle, a metaphoric
journey from the center of our solar system to other places of the milky
way, passing all other planets and moons as we move along, to the stars
and beyond.
Here is a short overview of the most relevant features introduced in
this version:
* Plugin and connection context menus have a new feature called
"Insert/Prepend Plugin", enabling you to insert new plugins
without disrupting the current DSP processing pipeline.
* Deleting plugins will now restore previous connections.
* A new function "Loop Fit" for samples, which adjusts a samples
speed to match a current tempo.
* Plugin LEDs in the router have been extended to fully fledged
VUs, and thus can now display volumes of emitted signals.
* Overdrive warnings for master and plugin VUs. If the measured
volume reaches 0dB, the bar will flash bright red to indicate
loss of quality.
* The sequencer has been remixed and shows patterns now with
distinguishing colors (automatically calculated). Pattern length
is now being visualized as well.
* A new Audio Input plugin allows real-time DSP processing of
microphone and line input.
* Thanks to libzzub's new LLVM-powered Lunar DSP plugin engine, a
bunch of new plugins: Filter, Panning, Gain, a Kick Synthesizer
and the Lunar MiniSynth, which is a Bass Synthesizer supporting
DASR filter envelopes.
* Various user interface simplifications.
Enjoy this new version and visit us on #aldrin on freenode.net, or
subscribe to the Aldrin mailing list.
http://www.leonard-ritter.com/announcement_aldrin_0_9_mercury
--
Leonard Ritter
-- Freelance Art & Logic
-- http://www.leonard-ritter.com
fredag 19 januari 2007 11:54 skrev Marc-Olivier Barre:
> Now could we get back to the original question and take a decision ?
I vote yes.
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Oh dear...
Please note that Linuxaudio.org offer does *not* suggest moving to forums.
Again, let me repeat, it does *not* suggest moving to forums.
It suggests moving the existing mailing lists LAD/LAU/LAA, so that they are
hosted under Linuxaudio.org. They would still remain the same lists with
same subscribers and same features. The only difference is that we would
have them under the Linuxaudio.org umbrella. Namely, we would have
linux-audio-dev(a)linuxaudio.org etc., instead of
linux-audio-dev(a)music.columbia.edu. But also, more importantly, these as
well as any other relevant lists that end-up being consolidated, would be
found under *one* *single* URL: lists.linuxaudio.org. And that, in and of
itself in my book (and I am sure in a book of any newcomer to Linux audio)
would be truly priceless.
Best wishes,
Ico
> I do not have any objections to this, and I am willing to continue the
> administration tasks on these new servers if the migration is voted by
> the other members.
>
> Also, I would like to discuss with you (ico) some setup specifics I
> would like to see implemented, mostly about automatic spam filtering,
> which is a huge problem on LAA. I know you guys don't see it, but
> believe me... ;-)
Yes, I can only imagine how much junk you have to read through...
FWIW, you can set up the listserv so that it simply discards stuff from
unsubscribed posters. This would fix LAA as well and as such it seems to me
like a reasonable compromise since spammers in most cases are not subscribed
to the list and if a poster really wants to post on a particular list they
might as well subscribe to it.
I am sure there may be some who would disagree with this kind of a policy
and thus I think it is ultimately up to you to decide what you deem best
solution/compromise.
Best wishes,
Ico
NB: this is a resend of my earlier e-mail which did not go through due to
agnula domain expiring. Now that we've migrated lists to the main
linuxaudio.org server it is my hope that we won't have to deal with any more
downtime.
Greetings all,
Hope everyone's New Year is off to a good start. Here are a couple of
updates regarding recent Linuxaudio.org activities:
In the light of Dave Phillips' recent announcement, the consolidation of
documentation, user support, and developer resources is now the top priority
at Linuxaudio.org. Since last December, a number of volunteers have come
forward in order to tackle this project.
The preliminary consensus is to generate a well integrated and cross-linked
platform for user and developer support consisting of existing mailing
lists, app wiki site based on Dave's work, a wiki/forum user support hybrid,
and paper/document/manuals repository. The challenge is how to make these
well integrated and cross-linked. For instance, having posts on LAU/LAD
lists pre-parsed before they are distributed with relevant links would be
rather helpful (i.e. one could mention JACK in the e-mail and the parser
would immediately attach an URL to it so that the mailing list subscribers
would get a much more user-friendly version without requiring additional
overhead from the posting party), etc.
The current proposed model (subject to change) should consist of three
domains:
app.linuxaudio.org -- app list (dynamic version of Dave's page)
doc.linuxaudio.org -- wiki documentation
forum.linuxaudio.org -- wiki/forum hybrid
I have taken the liberty to appoint Robin Gareus as this project leader due
to his concise idea and solid programming background in this area. Other
current volunteers include:
Nedko Arnaudov
Joseph M. Gaffney
Ashton Snelgrove
Vince Weber
As always, if interested in participating in this project please do not
hesitate to contact me.
We are also planning on presenting our preliminary framework at this year's
LAC in order to solicit feedback as well as recruit additional helpers. Long
term, we are looking towards a rather ambitious goal of developing a
transparent and well-integrated next-generation documentation, support, and
indexing platform.
Given that I may not be able to attend the conference this year due to a
number of reasons, many of which are beyond my control, provided our session
is accepted, Robin Gareus will be holding the talk. However, if any of you
will be there, we could definitely use some recruiters/PR people for
Linuxaudio.org. We could also use at least one board member to assist in
Robin's presentation. If interested please contact me preferably asap.
That should be it for now. Should you happen to have any additional
questions and/or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Many thanks!
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Linuxaudio.org Director
Virginia Tech
Department of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-1137
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico(a)linuxaudio.org
http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic
Greetings all,
I am pleased to announce that the consortium lists have been migrated from
the agnula domain and are fully functioning. They can be accessed via
lists.linuxaudio.org. This important migration will greatly simplify further
consolidation of online resources.
Given that there was some discussion about this before which has elicited
positive feedback, in an effort to consolidate online resources please
consider this an open call to LAU/LAD/LAA maintainer(s) to consider
migrating lists to the lists.linuxaudio.org. Provided that there is still
interest for such a move, the consortium will provide you with necessary
help to make migration as seamless as possible. Furthermore, linuxaudio.org
in conjunction with Virginia Tech will provide:
1) virtually unlimited bandwidth
2) generous disk space
3) the necessary access to maintainers
4) the assurance that no institutional, logistical, and/or any other kind of
control will be exerted over the mailing lists, respective maintainers and
subscribers
The list of current online resources hosted by linuxaudio.org can be found
at portal.linuxaudio.org.
I sincerely hope that the community will support this important milestone
towards consolidation of Linux audio online resources.
Should you happen to have any additional questions and/or concerns, please
do not hesitate to contact me.
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Linuxaudio.org Director
Virginia Tech
Department of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-1137
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico(a)linuxaudio.org
http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic
Greetings all,
Please consider this a test message to see if the migration was successful.
The new listserv should have the same URL as the old one. For your
convenience, the listing of consortium mailing lists can be accessed at
lists.linuxaudio.org.
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, and CHCI
Virginia Tech
Dept. of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-1137
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico(a)vt.edu
http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic/
Greetings all,
Hope everyone's New Year is off to a good start. Here are a couple of
updates regarding recent Linuxaudio.org activities:
In the light of Dave Phillips' recent announcement, the consolidation of
documentation, user support, and developer resources is now the top priority
at Linuxaudio.org. Since last December, a number of volunteers have come
forward in order to tackle this project.
The preliminary consensus is to generate a well integrated and cross-linked
platform for user and developer support consisting of existing mailing
lists, app wiki site based on Dave's work, a wiki/forum user support hybrid,
and paper/document/manuals repository. The challenge is how to make these
well integrated and cross-linked. For instance, having posts on LAU/LAD
lists pre-parsed before they are distributed with relevant links would be
rather helpful (i.e. one could mention JACK in the e-mail and the parser
would immediately attach an URL to it so that the mailing list subscribers
would get a much more user-friendly version without requiring additional
overhead from the posting party), etc.
The current proposed model (subject to change) should consist of three
domains:
app.linuxaudio.org -- app list (dynamic version of Dave's page)
doc.linuxaudio.org -- wiki documentation
forum.linuxaudio.org -- wiki/forum hybrid
I have taken the liberty to appoint Robin Gareus as this project leader due
to his concise idea and solid programming background in this area. Other
current volunteers include:
Nedko Arnaudov
Joseph M. Gaffney
Ashton Snelgrove
Vince Weber
As always, if interested in participating in this project please do not
hesitate to contact me.
We are also planning on presenting our preliminary framework at this year's
LAC in order to solicit feedback as well as recruit additional helpers. Long
term, we are looking towards a rather ambitious goal of developing a
transparent and well-integrated next-generation documentation, support, and
indexing platform.
Given that I may not be able to attend the conference this year due to a
number of reasons, many of which are beyond my control, provided our session
is accepted, Robin Gareus will be holding the talk. However, if any of you
will be there, we could definitely use some recruiters/PR people for
Linuxaudio.org. We could also use at least one board member to assist in
Robin's presentation. If interested please contact me preferably asap.
That should be it for now. Should you happen to have any additional
questions and/or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Many thanks!
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Linuxaudio.org Director
Virginia Tech
Department of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-1137
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico(a)linuxaudio.org
http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic