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linux-sound porting & documentation proposal (Was: Attracting more Linux audio developers)

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

How about we stop the seemingly endless discussion and instead all roll-up our sleeves and actually do this? Here's what I offer on behalf of linuxaudio.org: 1) generous hosting space 2) virtually unlimited bandwidth 3) docs.linuxaudio.org and apps.linuxaudio.org domains 4) accounts to maintainers 5) server support as needed What we need volunteers to do: 1) port Dave's pages over into a legible and appealing format to apps.linuxaudio.org 2) cross-link those pages to docs.linuxaudio.org page (in addition to apps homepages) which will be a wiki with documentation templates and standardized layout 3) need to design an appealing interface for both sites (hence consider this an open call for volunteer designers) -- this cannot be emphasized enough: we do not want an ugly, plain website, but a nice inviting and user-oriented resource. 4) create a generic wikipedia entry which gives a summary, philosophy, and notable achievements of the linux audio scene and provides critical links (hence it would be used as a portal rather than an exhaustive resource for a moving target which would never fly with the wikipedia editors anyhow) On a side note, here's another offer: As per my discussion with Joern, on behalf of linuxaudio.org I also offer free unlimited space for porting over LAU and LAD lists to lists.linuxaudio.org in hopes that we continue consolidating these invaluable resources. Maintainers will be given appropriate access privileges etc. Any takers? Best wishes, Ico

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[Fwd: :) Re: [Consortium] zsh: 6462 illegal hardware instruction ardour]

by Ralf

Ups ;) -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: :) Re: [Consortium] zsh: 6462 illegal hardware instruction ardour Datum: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:35:28 +0100 Von: Ralf <drachenpost(a)meocom-online.de> An: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> Referenzen: <00a401c72013$25377f50$0202a8c0@64BitBadass> Hi Ico :) thank you for answering my request so quickly. The first thing I've done was to write Jaromil on Tue, 12 Dec 2006. Now I've to learn how to use mailing lists, something new for me, that won't get easier by my broken English ;). Linux isn't an OS for people who simply want a tool but Computers are tools at first. Open Sources won't help users, what they need are manuals including really detailed indexes, something unknown among Linux. I please the audio-community not to become "stallmanic", like the majority of leading Linux-Distributions. Every effort with wiki is useful. "[...] For the aforesaid reasons, I feel that a wikipedia page in conjunction to project's homepages is IMHO not enough. [...]" (Ivica Ico Bukvic, Fri, 15 Dec 2006) That's correct. Greetz Ralf Ivica Ico Bukvic schrieb: > Hi Ralf, > > You may want to forward this to Linux-Audio-User and/or > Linux-Audio-Developer lists, since they deal more with this kind of stuff. > Another possibility is to contact Jaromil (dyne:bolic lead) directly. > > Hope this helps! > > Best wishes, > > Ico > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: consortium-bounces(a)lists.linuxaudio.org [mailto:consortium- >> bounces(a)lists.linuxaudio.org] On Behalf Of Ralf >> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:22 PM >> To: consortium(a)lists.linuxaudio.org >> Subject: [Consortium] zsh: 6462 illegal hardware instruction ardour >> >> Hello :) >> >> I've got some trouble with Dynebolic and Linux in general. >> >> Relevant for my question(s) is this hardware and Software: >> >> Mobo ASRock K7VT2, Chipset VIA KT266A, AMD Athlon 900MHz >> Swissonic MIDI-USB 1x1, Plug & Play >> Soundcard TerraTec EWX 24/96 without MIDI >> >> Dynebolic ver 2.2 DHORUBA 6Oct06 >> Dynebolic ver 1.4.1 LUMUMBA 15Jan05 >> >> Question(s) about Version 2.2 >> >> If I try to run Ardour (by the Terminal) while Jack is running the >> following messages are displayed: >> >> [d:b] ~ #ardour >> [...] >> ardour: [INFO]: Jack server started >> [...] >> ardour: [INFO]: No H/W specific optimizations in use >> ardour: [WARNING]: Your system generates "Mod2" when the NumLock key is >> pressed. >> This can cause problems when editing so Ardour will use Mod3 to mean >> Meta rather than Mod2 >> zsh: 6462 illegal hardware instruction ardour >> [d:b] ~ # >> >> Ardour won't be opened. >> >> In Version 1.4.1 Jack doesn't recognize the MIDI of the game port and >> USB but if I run Ardour there the following will be displayed: >> >> [d:b] ~ #ardour >> [...] >> ardour: [ERROR] MIDI: no such port device >> ardour: [ERROR] MIDI: no such port device >> ardour: [WARNING]: Your system generates "Mod2" when the NumLock key is >> pressed. >> This can cause problems when editing so Ardour will use Mod3 to mean >> Meta rather than Mod2 >> [] >> >> Ardour will be opened. >> >> How can I get Ardour running in Version 2.2? >> >> More questions are already loaded ;). >> >> >> Greetings >> >> Ralf Mardorf >> >> Germany >> Oberhausen Rheinland

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RE: [linux-audio-user] Re: Attracting more Linux audio developers

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

> No, the idea is very good. However, it should be of the same > quality as Dave's page. And therefore, we need all the categories > he has. (list below). Because I think the first thing to do would be to > copy all the contents from Dave's page into wikipedia. > > And the question then is, will wikipedia allow us to create all > these sub-categories? (linux-audio-Demos, linux-audio-digital-dj, and so > on.) I'd say that wikipedia should be used as a summary page, rather than an exhaustive resource with app-specific documentation. So, I guess in that respect I do agree with your ideas. However, I do not see it as an exhaustive documentation resource for every app. Another observation is that while most of the apps have decent documentation on their homepages, none of it is standardized in terms of layout/cross-referencing/etc. and therefore an easy read. This is where our documentation page could shine providing a streamlined/standardized resource. More so, if we generate such a resource, I am convinced that a quorum of Linux audio users who may not be able to contribute code, may be more willing to donate their time in maintaining/contributing to the documentation project, especially if the format for such contributions is demystified with appropriate templates. Ultimately, this would also help project developers not worry as much about the documentation, so it would be a win-win situation for all. Heck, in due time, we may even attract some financial support from various commercial distros in order to maintain this distro-agnostic resource. For the aforesaid reasons, I feel that a wikipedia page in conjunction to project's homepages is IMHO not enough. That is not to say that we shouldn't have one, but I simply see it as a summary resource which leads user towards the real documentation site. Best wishes, Ico

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zsh: 6462 illegal hardware instruction ardour

by Ralf

Hello :) I've got some trouble with Dynebolic and Linux in general. Relevant for my question(s) is this hardware and Software: Mobo ASRock K7VT2, Chipset VIA KT266A, AMD Athlon 900MHz Swissonic MIDI-USB 1x1, Plug & Play Soundcard TerraTec EWX 24/96 without MIDI Dynebolic ver 2.2 DHORUBA 6Oct06 Dynebolic ver 1.4.1 LUMUMBA 15Jan05 Question(s) about Version 2.2 If I try to run Ardour (by the Terminal) while Jack is running the following messages are displayed: [d:b] ~ #ardour [...] ardour: [INFO]: Jack server started [...] ardour: [INFO]: No H/W specific optimizations in use ardour: [WARNING]: Your system generates "Mod2" when the NumLock key is pressed. This can cause problems when editing so Ardour will use Mod3 to mean Meta rather than Mod2 zsh: 6462 illegal hardware instruction ardour [d:b] ~ # Ardour won't be opened. In Version 1.4.1 Jack doesn't recognize the MIDI of the game port and USB but if I run Ardour there the following will be displayed: [d:b] ~ #ardour [...] ardour: [ERROR] MIDI: no such port device ardour: [ERROR] MIDI: no such port device ardour: [WARNING]: Your system generates "Mod2" when the NumLock key is pressed. This can cause problems when editing so Ardour will use Mod3 to mean Meta rather than Mod2 [] Ardour will be opened. How can I get Ardour running in Version 2.2? More questions are already loaded ;). Greetings Ralf Mardorf Germany Oberhausen Rheinland

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RE: [linux-audio-dev] OT: interesting angle on the NOVL-MSFT deal

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

> None of that is a concern here. The "intellectual property risk" is only > a problem in the USA because they support software patents. We don't > have that in Europe, so the "intellectual propery risk" does not exist > in Europe. There is still "copyright protection" in Europe, but Linux > has the GPL license, so that is also not a business "risk". > > James This was not posted because of copyright/IP reasons, but rather the business model that the article implies Novell may be pushing for. Ico

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OT: interesting angle on the NOVL-MSFT deal

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/12/leopard_server.ht ml Ico

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RE: [linux-audio-user] Attracting more Linux audio developers

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

> Regarding the webmastering, I just might be interested, but I'm not sure > that I can put in the effort required. I am of the opinion that the > Linux audio community should gain from having a consistent layout on the > sites, perhaps even a set of prominent links like for instance the > OSDL-sites. This would require some serious work. How many people are > involved today? Linuxaudio.org has a small active staff and until very recently it was predominantly a one-man show. I am hoping to change this as for one I am really getting burned out and two, I want to utilize my energy on other pressing and likely more important matters, such as incorporation of the organization as a non-profit entity and fund-raising. Unfortunately, even though we had a successful first round of recruiting volunteers, we are hardly at a point where I can say linuxaudio.org has adequate staffing. Regarding consistency, I am very much interested in that but putting some more thought into it (which was in part inspired by the discussion on the consortium list), I feel like total standardization may not be a good idea not only because some of the consolidated websites' webmasters do not feel inclined to do so, but also because we want the consortium to also reflect the freedom and variety Linux audio offers. Hence, standardization as such will likely come in something more subtle (i.e. logo plus perhaps some kind of a subtle corner css menu thingy). That being said, we've not tackled this yet, hence your contributions/ideas are more than welcome. Best wishes, Ico

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RE: [linux-audio-dev] rebuilding the linux soundapps site

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

Adoption of linux-sound.org into linuxaudio.org is a continuing standing offer, but obviously this is something that the community needs to embrace, rather than having a hostile takeover which will leave a sour aftertaste in everyone's mouths. Provided that the community is fine with this, the proposed course of action would be as follows: 1)generate apps.linuxaudio.org subdomain and port over a summary list of the applications (similar to Dave's format) 2) plug every listed app to the docs.linuxaudio.org wiki where we would build largest and most comprehensive documentation database Alternately, we could simply do everything inside docs.linuxaudio.org, but I feel that the usefulness of Dave's pages would be somewhat lost unless the docs would also have a nice categorized listing of available apps. Best wishes, Ico > -----Original Message----- > From: linux-audio-dev-bounces(a)music.columbia.edu [mailto:linux-audio-dev- > bounces(a)music.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Phillips > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 1:20 PM > To: LAD Mail List; LAU Mail List > Subject: [linux-audio-dev] rebuilding the linux soundapps site > > Greetings: > > I've received a few notes that indicate people are interested in > revising the look & feel of the site at linux-sound.org. > > If you're currently working on such a project *please* make your > intentions public. There are at least two projects working towards the > same end, and this is truly one wheel that does not need reinvention. > Better that folks work together on it. > > Best, > > dp

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RE: linux audio wiki

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

Hi Nedko, A while ago I proposed merging documentation efforts of the community, spearheaded by Dave's now unfortunately cancelled 2nd edition of his venerable book. Linuxaudio.org is already trying to head in this direction and we are currently in the process of assembling a team to utilize presently empty sub-domain docs.linuxaudio.org which ought to be perfect for this purpose (rather than hijacking lau faq site which has its own specific purpose). One possible scenario (which FWIW I very much favor) is to have a Wiki page that would sum up all of the projects listed on Dave's site as well as those that are also relevant but have not yet made it there. Using a similar template format we should provide a continuously updated consolidated resource for all Linux audio users, and more importantly all Linux distributions to reference. As such, we are also hoping to attract various distros to contribute to the same documentation project. So far goto10 guys (dyne creators) have expressed interest in the idea... Best wishes, Ico > -----Original Message----- > From: Nedko Arnaudov [mailto:nedko@arnaudov.name] > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2006 9:09 PM > To: ico(a)linuxaudio.org > Subject: linux audio wiki > > There was a talk in #lad and there is idea to have general purpose wiki > for linux audio. http://lau.linuxaudio.org/faq looks perfect except that > it is "user" faq oriented. What you think about having "lau faq" > category with all current lau faq pages in it and using the mediawiki > installation as general purpose linux audio wiki. Such wiki will include > user and developer oriented pages. It will include also information > about belonging of software to groups like lv2, dssi, jack, alsa midi, > jack midi, jack audio, sequencer, host, etc. Something similar (software > categorization/grouping) is made at http://linux-sound.org/ and > http://lawiki.fugal.net/linuxaudio/show/HomePage > > -- > Nedko Arnaudov <GnuPG KeyID: DE1716B0>

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Made in Linux font

by Thorsten Wilms

Hi! http://thorwil.affenbande.org/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/made_in_linux_vol_… First is unchanged from last cover design, all others have slightly narrower M and variations of the 1. -- Thorsten Wilms Thorwil's Creature Illustrations: http://www.printfection.com/thorwil

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