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linuxaudio downtime Sunday, November 18 for maintenance

by Robin Gareus

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, linuxaudio.org will be down this Sunday, November 18, from 11:00 to 12:00 EST because our hosting provider is maintaining the storage system. sorry for the inconvenience, robin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJQorDIAAoJEKCQvOAs9X8EzXwP/RWzKQdCIrOnn0P1G68PmjZK NEkICVmYnuu/ul3C9gtsu/vXkeBrF2+kPo6KQRr2jhT2491UVCHZhnABRPBTbKU3 Yy4wRvk9AM1tHUdhEsOTWu3tyBvN03Crn6RAotpDw+1LBfHHQcjabRxQsYEBAglB YMpSzxHvGrHU7b8yYQlpSQ4Ysro1lYHxzebY02qjpaU4nX49LtdkxSltL4AxXYSi pO9RTrUVGfuwRCoMASmdDtcJxc2XepYs2UayDGst+aqikjYNm0VGL8m84HkBIbgs ulhQOL8/XZyqTgsryr5uZ5pWQ+1ZBiOpkITXd0LaS3G8kcIvLTncuJsLxaPiWeZn 6eo5dIPIh+ttZOBYqWMJhY7YpgPEqakKHD+Ahkfzzo7oTreylt0Xk4HQZ+Wj+vtF We3G/skhgcugtqHpF+o4AILCsmiSwYv51LRyq+y5gaOVYkjTFRx1p4v7sGQAzVVX Bgn7tufO8FREGYctuCsXxaqLGwXV/aY2fXEDebk0lZxBBCut8aYcvgsQ79BU8udT +H/CeSbmeS3QsbptdFsLrFSpPcD+x4Tumq/tfWEBOmw7uXhsp2weC2K6o/wOKmFg W5mZ1nppGjp0qJtkHwP8Fo9iux0YLDCgL40FItrFSD1pOnACq292taylTpf3veCI xWcGTyNEySpTHk3h1Djf =Bydq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

12 years, 1 month

LAO scheduled downtime

by Robin Gareus

Hi all, Ico - director of linuxaudio.org - arranged to quadruple the disk-space for our servers. Amongst other things, this will allow us to host large sample-collections (an endeavor Nils has started) as well as prepare for videos from the upcoming Linux-Audio-Conference. linuxaudio.org services will be offline for 5-10 mins later today (around 45 min from now). 26/Sept - 16:00 UTC thanks for your understanding. robin

12 years, 3 months

Archival of Audio Distributions - Hall of Fame

by Patrick Shirkey

Hi, I propose that we create a new subdomain called : distro.linuxaudio.org At this location we create a webpage that lists all the audio distributions for linux audio and serves as a canonical reference for projects that have been abandoned. We also host the latest/last version of every distribution on the list. Kind of like a history of Linux Audio Distributions. One appeal in hosting this at linuxaudio.org is that there are a few distros already hosted there. Another is that it might keep the flame burning for people who are thinking of rolling their own in the future. Distro's take a considerable amount of time and effort to produce so honouring them with a "Hall of Fame" so to speak is fulfilling the remit of the consortium to promote Linux Audio to a wider audience. Of course if there is no interest project I will set it up on linux-audio.com so either way we don't loose out. In an ideal situation we host the data in a couple of locations for redundancy. Given that linuxaudio.org servers are in the USA and linux-audio.com servers are in the EU it seems like a good combination to me. Taking it a step further maybe we can get some of the EU based Universities or institutes to contribute some hardware and then I don't have to pay for the EU host out of my own pocket. -- Patrick Shirkey Boost Hardware Ltd

12 years, 3 months

ANN: New version of Pd-L2Ork Software Featured in the Inaugural VT ICAT Maker Workshop for Middle-School Kids

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

Apologies for x-posting... It's been a busy summer--pd-l2ork <http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56>has been making big strides towards becoming a robust full-fledged digital signal processing tool. The latest version includes revolutionary preset_hub and preset_node system that supports a wide range of data types as well as abstractions. It is essentially Pd's counterpart toMax's pattrstorage <http://cycling74.com/docs/max5/refpages/max-ref/pattrstorage.html>. We've also squashed dozens of bugs and clean-ups making pd-l2ork better than ever. Perhaps the most exciting improvement involves Pd-L2Ork'sK12 module <http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?p=1964>geared towards elementary, middle, and high school students. The new version has over 40 objects/abstractions, allowing students to seamlessly interact with both Wiimotes andSARC iteration of Arduino Uno devices (a.k.a. Sarcduino firmware) <http://www.musicsensorsemotion.com/2010/03/08/sarcduino/>. And this very version together with 15 L2Ork stations is being used this week by more than 30 middle-school students as part of the inauguralICAT K12 Maker Workshop <http://www.icat.vt.edu/> taking place in Virginia Tech Institute for Creativity, Arts & Technology's Studio 1. So, head on over to the L2Ork's software page <http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56>and check out what the latest version of pd-l2ork is all about ;-) Best wishes, -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Head, ICAT IMPACT Studio Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net

12 years, 5 months

wiki.LAO - lockdown to registered users

by Robin Gareus

Hi all, http://wiki.linuxaudio.org is seeing an increasing amount of SPAM. For a while it has been sufficient to [fail2]ban IP addresses that incorrectly guess CAPTCHA - ie. prevent brute-force attacks and manually revert the remaining pollution. -- Yet in the last months either CAPTCHA breaking has improved or there are real persons doing the spamming. I did not do statistics, but from watching the changelog I gather that the vast majority of contributions to the wiki comes from registered users. So the idea is to lock the wiki down and only allow registered users (registration requires an email address) to edit it. Thoughts? Objections? robin

12 years, 5 months

lao subdomains

by Robin Gareus

Hi *, There's a whole lot of v-hosts below linuxaudio.org. The recent migration of vhosts gave rise to rethink and hopefully consolidate others. Let me first list the "good ones" and them move on to suggestions for the cruft. Please comment on my suggestions there. If you don't, you forfeit your right to complain later :-) == The good == http://www.linuxaudio.org/ mostly OK - it's a drupal that could use some lovin'. http://portal.linuxaudio.org/ 301 -> http://linuxaudio.org/resources historical URL. http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/ ~15 regular editors and content-maintainers >= 200 casual contributors http://apps.linuxaudio.org/ 301 -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/ historical URL; the wiki started as "apps" http://lac.linuxaudio.org the conference collections could use some promotion from the www front-page. lots of good resources - proceedings, videos from presentations etc. http://planet.linuxaudio.org/ feed aggregation of user-blogs The planet features two hidden "moons" that will need announcement: http://planet.linuxaudio.org/bugs/ http://planet.linuxaudio.org/apps/ http://forum.linuxaudio.org/ 307 -> http://linuxmusicians.com/ following discussion in 2008 if LAO should host a forum we agreed on redirecting and supporting linuxmusicians http://radio.linuxaudio.org icecast server loop: best of LAM '08-'10 by DJCJ (P.Shirkey) misc and temp. live-streams (e.g. LAC stream-relay) http://download.linuxaudio.org/ mirror of various software, sound samples, distros and misc stuff This is also the primary server for http://lilypond.org/ http://lists.linuxaudio.org/ mailman -- email lists moderated and administrated by M.O. Barre. == The questionable - vhosts that may need work == http://lad.linuxaudio.org/ currently a simple stub-page for LADs. ?? -> redirect to http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/lad ?? http://git.linuxaudio.org outdated endeavor from 2008 by yours truly. The idea was to track and mirror code repositories. Since superseded by github et al. ?? -> should be removed ! http://lau.linuxaudio.org/ 302 -> http://linux-audio.com/ Linux Audio Users Guide - some useful information (read-only curated by P.Shirkey) IMHO the content of this site should be merged into http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/ and http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/newbie to allow to being updated by the LAU community. The content was deleted from LAO on April/22/2012 after it was migrated to linux-audio.com by its maintainer. We do have a backup in case s.o want to keep it alive at LAO ?? keep redirect | use wiki ?? http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/ 301 -> http://quicktoots.linux-audio.com/ Tutorials - mostly pre 2004 the up-to-date stuff should probably go to flossmanual.net the content was deleted from LAO on April/22/2012 after it was migrated to linux-audio.com by its maintainer. We do have a backup in case s.o want to keep it alive at la.org ?? -> should be removed ?? http://ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/ pretty much dysfunct site of Linux VST Compatibility not sure what to do with it. - previously maintained by Tim Orford ?? http://lowlatency.linuxaudio.org/ low-latency info for linux-2.2 and linux-2.4 some general good info but pretty much outdated. it's a single page in that v-host. Should become a wiki-page ?? 301 -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/lowlatency ?? http://awards.linuxaudio.org/ an initiative started by P. Shirkey in 2009 - seems dead ?? not sure ?? http://label.linuxaudio.org/ an initiative by P. Shirkey(?) in 2011 - never got started ?? not sure - delete it ?! == Misc/other good v-hosts == http://robin.linuxaudio.org/ things where I keep tempoprary stuff and do site development things the docroot 307 redirects to my website http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org excellent LA software - more bang per byte. http://stats.linuxaudio.org/ server statistics ?? should those be password protected ?? some of the AWstats may be used to track users (e.g. top 10 host list) Thoughts? Comments? robin

12 years, 8 months

Fwd: Re: lao subdomains

by Ivica Ico Bukvic

Forwarding what I failed to reply to on-list... -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Consortium] lao subdomains Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:56:44 -0400 From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> To: Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> Since we have no control over Patrick's offsite content, after some courtesy redirect period of time we should remove that and other subdomains altogether, together with other defunct pages. I also like ready redirecting smaller pages to the wiki as you suggested. Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Assistant Director, CCTAD Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu <http://disis.music.vt.edu> l2ork.music.vt.edu <http://l2ork.music.vt.edu> ico.bukvic.net <http://ico.bukvic.net> Robin Gareus <robin(a)gareus.org> wrote: Hi *, There's a whole lot of v-hosts belowlinuxaudio.org <http://linuxaudio.org>. The recent migration of vhosts gave rise to rethink and hopefully consolidate others. Let me first list the "good ones" and them move on to suggestions for the cruft. Please comment on my suggestions there. If you don't, you forfeit your right to complain later :-) == The good == http://www.linuxaudio.org/ mostly OK - it's a drupal that could use some lovin'. http://portal.linuxaudio.org/ 301 -> http://linuxaudio.org/resources historical URL. http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/ ~15 regular editors and content-maintainers ! >= 200 casual contributors http://apps.linuxaudio.org/ 301 -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/apps/ historical URL; the wiki started as "apps" http://lac.linuxaudio.org the conference collections could use some promotion from the www front-page. lots of good resources - proceedings, videos from presentations etc. http://planet.linuxaudio.org/ feed aggregation of user-blogs The planet features two hidden "moons" that will need announcement: http://planet.linuxaudio.org/bugs/ http://planet.linuxaudio.org/apps/ http://forum.linuxaudio.org/ 307 -> http://linuxmusicians.com/ following discussion in 2008 if LAO should host a forum we agreed on redirecting and supporting linuxmusicians http://radio.linuxaudio.org icecast server loop: best of LAM '08-'10 by DJCJ (P.Shirkey) misc and temp. live-streams (e.g. LAC stream-relay) http://download.linuxaudio.org/ mirror of various software, sound samples, distros and misc stuff This is also the primary server forhttp://lilypond.org/ http://lists.linuxaudio.org/ mailman -- email lists moderated and administrated by M.O. Barre. == The questionable - vhosts that may need work == http://lad.linuxaudio.org/ curre! ntly a simple stub-page for LADs. ?? -> redirect tohttp://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/lad ?? http://git.linuxaudio.org outdated endeavor from 2008 by yours truly. The idea was to track and mirror code repositories. Since superseded by github et al. ?? -> should be removed ! http://lau.linuxaudio.org/ 302 -> http://linux-audio.com/ Linux Audio Users Guide - some useful information (read-only curated by P.Shirkey) IMHO the content of this site should be merged into http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/ and http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/newbie to allow to being updated by the LAU community. The conten! t was deleted from LAO on April/22/2012 after it was migrated tolinux-audio.com <http://linux-audio.com> by its maintainer. We do have a backup in case s.o want to keep it alive at LAO ?? keep redirect | use wiki ?? http://quicktoots.linuxaudio.org/ 301 -> http://quicktoots.linux-audio.com/ Tutorials - mostly pre 2004 the up-to-date stuff should probably go toflossmanual.net <http://flossmanual.net> the content was deleted from LAO on April/22/2012 after it was migrated tolinux-audio.com <http://linux-audio.com> by its maintainer. We do have a backup in case s.o want to keep it alive atla.org <http://la.org> ?? -> should be removed ?? http://ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/ pretty m! uch dysfunct site of Linux VST Compatibility not sure what to do with it. - previously maintained by Tim Orford ?? http://lowlatency.linuxaudio.org/ low-latency info for linux-2.2 and linux-2.4 some general good info but pretty much outdated. it's a single page in that v-host. Should become a wiki-page ?? 301 -> http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/lowlatency ?? http://awards.linuxaudio.org/ an initiative started by P. Shirkey in 2009 - seems dead ?? not sure ?? http://label.linuxaudio.org/ an initiative by P. Shirkey(?) in 2011 - never got started ?? not sure - delete it ?! == Misc/other good v-hosts == http://robin.linuxaudio.org/ things where I keep tempoprary stuff and do site development things the docroot 307 redirects to my website http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org excellent LA software - more bang per byte. http://stats.linuxaudio.org/ server statistics ?? should those be password protected ?? some of the AWstats may be used to track users (e.g. top 10 host list) Thoughts? Comments? robin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Consortium mailing list Consortium(a)lists.linuxaudio.org http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/consortium

12 years, 8 months

Re: [Consortium] lao subdomains

by Robin Gareus

Hi Tim, On 04/27/2012 12:43 AM, Tim Orford wrote: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 05:47:03PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: >> == The questionable - vhosts that may need work == >> [...] >> >> http://ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/ >> pretty much dysfunct site of Linux VST Compatibility >> not sure what to do with it. - previously maintained by Tim Orford > > My apologies for non-maintenance. It was destroyed by spammers. > It needs access to mysql backups When did the spamming start? We [only] have monthly SQL backups since August 2010. http://ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/vst/list?page=8 seems to be the beginning of the mess. -- Feb 13 - but which year? There's also some SPAM from before that :( and upgrade to Drupal 7. You do have full access to linuxaudio:/home/sites/ladspavst.linuxaudio.org/ and the mysql database it currently uses. > However, given that there is from my POV less need for it > than previously, I vote to remove it (semi?) permanently. One idea would be to revert the DB to a last-known good state and then freeze the site until s.o. comes up with a small script that imports the content into the wiki. Not sure how useful that'd be, though. Wine and linux-VST-support have evolved quite a bit since you've started that project. 2c, robin

12 years, 8 months

Re: [Consortium] lao subdomains

by Jörn Nettingsmeier

On 04/26/2012 10:51 PM, Steve Harris wrote: > Yes, and on top of that unscrupulous persons will use your AWStats > pages to create links to their malware pages by faking referrer > headers, believe it or not. oh yeah, i'm getting a few of those. it's not awstats specific, though, i guess they do that for all publicly available stats pages. stats should definitely be noindex... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

12 years, 8 months

Re: [Consortium] [LAU] poll : Advertising vs Linux Audio

by Robin Gareus

On 04/22/2012 02:27 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > On Sun, April 22, 2012 1:52 pm, Robin Gareus wrote: >> On 04/22/2012 12:12 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, April 22, 2012 11:24 am, Robin Gareus wrote: >>>> On 04/22/2012 11:15 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm still not sure why you don't want businesses to give people round >>>>> here >>>>> money. >>>> >>>> Not at all. "people 'round here" can take all the money they want from >>>> anyone for whatever they deem fit. >>>> >>>> but linuxaudio.org itself will have a hard time. Usually money comes >>>> with obligations and we are in no position to handle that properly. >>>> >>> >>> Maybe I am naive but I thought our obligation as a consortium was to >>> discuss these topics and come to a workable solution that benefits all >>> members. >> >> just take it in stride. -- Your obligation as member of the management >> board is also to meet with the others at least once a year :) [ see 2. >> at http://linuxaudio.org/policy ] >> > > Funny that no one brought it up until now... I did. 4-5 times over the last 7 years. Most of the LAO crowd meets at the Linux Audio Conference but the majority of the Management Board has been absent there in recent years. [..] >> My personal opinion aside: >> >> I'm in favor to maintain a reasonable approach. >> The freedom of the community (no user-tracking, no obligations WRT to >> content posted on the site, no harassment, no discrimination, etc) takes >> priority. We should _not_ be "completely anti advertising", but think >> twice before adding ads or agreeing to 3rd party conditions. >> >> We can certainly express gratitude or favor companies that support >> linuxaudio.org but must be careful about maintaining independence. >> >> It's not possible to generalize advertising campaigns, but online >> marketing techniques usually come with strings attached.. >> >> Nobody complained that you put a link to _your_ site on the pages _you_ >> maintain on *.linuxaudio.org - but 3rd party interests - esp paid - are >> questionable. >> > > Hence the request for clarification of Policy. Instead all I get is a knee > jerk reaction and irrational prejudice. Hardly conducive to making > progress... I tried hard to explain the position and make it clear that it's not a /knee jerk/ reaction. let me try this way: the few bucks that linuxaudio.org could make via adverstising on linuxaudio.org will - in commercial context - never be able to pay for the services linuxaudio.org provides - and not even pay for the administrative overhead. If you have a viable business plan, we're all ear. > So a policy that sets clear guidelines is completely out of the question? Dunno, that's a question for the management board, not me. linuxaudio.org has no treasurer, no guidelines or infrastructure to deal with donations or money. There are no established procedures how the Board needs to agree and how to deal with such funds. Besides that, a policy would need to be in accordance to the rules of the Commonwealth of Virginia and Virginia Tech (our host). Ico has elaborated on that in his email to you from 04/20/2012 02:57 AM CEST on the consortium list. >From what I've learned: official policies are best avoided and replaced with common-sense. > Is it simply in the "Too Hard" basket? It's in the "we're happily ignorant about it" basket :) robin

12 years, 8 months

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