I would never advise open-source
developers to borrow a device in order to get a job done for free
and additionally have responsibilities(such as returning the hw and
responsibility to work with the community on support for it).
I think that's up to the developer to decide. The situation at the
moment is that many libre audio software developers don't even have
access to good quality or up to date hardware.
should be a responsibility of the company that manufactures that
I think donors are looking for some responsibility from the community,
which seems fair enough to me.
already own a device (whether donated or not) it's in your personal
interest to get the driver done.
I think we need to move beyond pure personal interest - to me, Linux
audio isn't a hobby.
If you're not a developer capable
of coding a driver, you can either a) pay someone to get it done
b) pester him and pray that he will accept ;)
With the consequence that hardware support is still patchy.
That means there's no need to talk about
responsibility. It just
isn't how opensource works.
I think we have very different ideas about how the community works.
Many developers do take their responsibilities very seriously,
including device driver maintainers.
We should be advising people to buy hw which is
So what happens when the cards we now recommend go out of production?
What about Firewire devices?
Regarding the 'Linux Audio' conference
Daniel, AFAIK it's Linux Audio Developers ZKM conference, but
sounds like it's now a linuxaudio.org
You're trolling again. There is no announcement, just a link to a
press release which I submitted to linuxpr.com
on behalf of Frank and
Matthias, with their agreement. I hope you've also been helping with
publicity for the event.
To quote you from
jan-12-2004 "Secondly, as important as the ZKM conference is, it
has no official status." Well now it sounds it has got an official
It is de facto the most significant Linux audio conference, but it
still doesn't have the ability to decide what individual community
members must do. Compare this to a political party conference, or
that of a professional body, where votes are held to decide on
policy. If you want to be a doctor for example, in most countries you
have to join the doctors' organisation and follow the rules that it
decides on - otherwise you won't be allowed, by law, to perform
But it sounds more like it's now a linuxaudio.org
conference more than a LAD conference.
I don't think so - there's no mention of linuxaudio.org
in the press
release, other than in the submitter line. Perhaps you should suggest
that they change the name next year to the International Linux Audio
(Developers Only, No Users) Conference.