21 Apr
2005
21 Apr
'05
11:24 a.m.
Hi Daniel,
Yes indeed, although it has other functions on top of the audio
interface, such as DSP effects. I'm guessing this will need some kind
of control application on top of the userspace driver.
> The representative of M-Audio was under the
impression that 'the
> guys from SuSE' were working with them on support for the
> FireWire 410 product.
Hehe, interesting. "The guys" mostlikely are
we. But the FireWire
410 and 1810 from M-Audio are not BeBob based.
Maybe he was thinking of the ALSA project then - I haven't heard back
from them yet, but I'd guess they're busy getting ready for the
Karlsruhe conference.
We might support
them in future (if someone finds time to do so). But currently we
are concentrating on the real BeBob based products.
I think (or hope) that we are moving into a new phase where
manufacturers are more actively involved in Linux support for their
audio products. So hopefully volunteer time won't be so much of a
constraining factor in future.
If you want to ask about help, ask for a BeBob based
firmware. That
would be the best thing for all.
Exactly which format do you need this firmware in? Presumably you have
the binary already for the particular device you are testing on?
Wouldn't sample hardware on loan + firmware be better? I don't think
that's impossible to arrange. If it makes these companies feel more
comfortable about sending the hardware out, we could arrange for the
Freebob project to become a member of linuxaudio.org - you'd be most
welcome of course. (It doesn't cost anything to join).
Other
companies that provided new contacts included Focusrite
(they now also make a FireWire interface), and the UK distributor
of RME products.
The new Saphire is a BeBob based product. Which products on the markt are MLan based?
There is a list here:
http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info/current_prod.php
According to this page, the mLAN spec is royalty-free and there is a
BridgeCo chipset for it:
http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info/mlan_ppf.php
There are three kinds of mLAN licence:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/tech/1394mLAN/english/license.html
As far I can see, driver development for a 'control node' requires a
PTT (Patent, Technical information & Trademark) License.
This page says that among others, BridgeCo is a licensee:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/tech/1394mLAN/english/partners.html
Cheers!
Daniel
25 Apr
25 Apr
8:11 p.m.
New subject: [Freebob-devel] Status of FireWire/MLan support?
Hi Daniel,
Binary on the device :)
If you want to
ask about help, ask for a BeBob based firmware. That
would be the best thing for all.
Exactly which format do you need this firmware in? Presumably you have
the binary already for the particular device you are testing on?
I have a couple of devices here which are running BeBob.
Wouldn't sample hardware on loan + firmware be
better? I don't think
that's impossible to arrange.
I have several good contacts to the hardware manufactures through BridgeCo.
For example I was able to convince Presonous and Terratec to give free
samples to Dan Dennedy and Pieter Palmers. They have immediatly agreed to
provide them. This is really great and helps this project. (Pieter has
already received his new toy :).
The interesting fact is, that all companies are interested in a Linux driver
for the product and are happy to provide us with few samples. Furthermore,
BridgeCo is interested in free drive for BeBob because that makes their chip
and software even more attractive (BridgeCo's main goal is to sell chips)
If it makes these companies feel more
comfortable about sending the hardware out, we could arrange for the
Freebob project to become a member of linuxaudio.org - you'd be most
welcome of course. (It doesn't cost anything to join).
Thanks for the offer. Of course we'd like to join such a platform. We need
some publicity to attract more hackers. There's still much to do... :)
According to this page, the mLAN spec is royalty-free
and there is a
BridgeCo chipset for it:
http://www.mlancentral.com/mlan_info/mlan_ppf.php
Hmm, I don't think mlancentral.com got that right. The BridgeCo chips or
better the software on it, is following the TA standards. The chip could be
used in a MLan network because MLan is also using the IEEE1394 standard for
transport layer. But everything on top is different, IRC. So you could use a
BridgeCo chip (also IEEE1394 based) but then you would have to write a
complete new (MLan) stack.
This page says that among others, BridgeCo is a
licensee:
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/tech/1394mLAN/english/partners.html
Right, but that doesn't mean BridgeCo is actual using anything from the
licensee :)
cheers,
daniel
7:45 p.m.
New subject: [Freebob-devel] Status of FireWire/MLan support?
Hi Daniel,
That's great - the terms of membership are at:
http://linuxaudio.org/en/policy.html
Please let me know if the Freebob project can agree to these terms,
and if so I'll add you to the list of members.
Cheers!
Daniel
I have several good contacts to the hardware
manufactures through
BridgeCo.
OK, it's a multi-pronged attack then!
If it makes
these companies feel more
comfortable about sending the hardware out, we could arrange for
the Freebob project to become a member of linuxaudio.org - you'd
be most welcome of course. (It doesn't cost anything to join).
Thanks for the offer. Of course we'd like to join such a platform.
26 Apr
26 Apr
9:30 a.m.
New subject: [Freebob-devel] Status of FireWire/MLan support?
If it makes these companies feel more
comfortable about sending the hardware out, we could arrange for
the Freebob project to become a member of linuxaudio.org - you'd
be most welcome of course. (It doesn't cost anything to join).
Thanks for the offer. Of course we'd like to join such a platform.
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