On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 08:29:41 +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote: That is not an insult. - Steve

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 08:29:41PM +0100, Marek Peteraj wrote: i didn't got Joern's email, anyway it's good to keep the discussion here, until is not a real rant. there is a good point about policy and mechanism and i see the good unix tradition he's talking about. Marek: just make a small effort to keep the discussion somehow 'clean' from subjective (sym|anti)pathies, i say this for the sake of giving some air to the good points you made with your first mail (i really wish you would have won the contest you were talking about) well ok, you know: i love you all :) i know my enemies and they are not here, i hope you all agree on this. still i see many different approaches among us: there are some geeks peeking into their messed-up inboxes there are managers looking for a cool domain and cheap visibility there are free software enthusiasts there are unemployed coders living day by day there are some hitech audio enthusiasts there are employees who can't code but are supposed to do software there are business professionals diving in a futurable field and each of us can be one or more of the above (just excluding certain tuples who really can't come along) now: let's try to be tolerant to each other. tolerance is a key for all kind of good things, believe me. we'll be moving in the same field, some of us have been doing that allready for some time now. the best for sure is to come together. let's make this effort, meeting in person once can also help IMHO. all the best and goodnite to who's in CET (is anybody here out of the so called EU?) ciao - -- jaromil, dyne.org rasta coder, http://rastasoft.org

Speaking about that (good idea) are there any news on the proposed Linux Audio Consortium roundtable at the 2nd Linux Audio Conference? P.S.: as far as I know, the name was changed from Linux Audio Developers Conference to Linux Audio Conference just because Frank and Matthias wanted to underline that this wasn't a developers' only conference anymore. bye, -- Andrea Glorioso andrea.glorioso(a)agnula.org AGNULA Technical Manager http://www.agnula.org/ M: +39 333 820 5723 F: +39 (0)51 930 31 133 "Libre Audio, Libre Video, Libre Software: AGNULA"

Hi Daniel, you wrote: We are in the final steps of fixing the programme right now; however, we had not scheduled any "official" LA Consortium roundtable; instead, we have planned to let a panel discussion take place on the last day (Sunday, May 2nd, around 3 PM). The topic for this discussion is not fixed yet (we thought about things like "Linux audio - what's missing?" or "Is it a viable alternative to Windows/MacOS X now?"), but I think we could merge our ideas and your interest here somewhat. What would be your topic suggestions for this roundtable? Greetings, Frank -- Frank Neumann (Frank.Neumann(a)st.com), VIONA Development Center STMicroelectronics, Karlstraße 27, 76133 Karlsruhe

I don't think that matters if the subjects are being discussed anyway. Perhaps we can organise a get-together for consortium members outside of the formal conference timetable, eg a social event where we can discuss ideas over dinner/beer/your refreshment of choice... I think the very existence of the conference proves that it's a viable alternative! I think an interesting question would be 'Should libre audio software compete for mainstream users?' since this brings up further questions about interoperability with proprietary software, ease of use versus dumbed-down interfaces and so on. Cheers Daniel