4 Jul
2021
4 Jul
'21
10:37 p.m.
Hi,
The subject says all: my messages to the mailing list linux-audio-announce
are being blocked.
Regards,
Pedro
4 Jul
4 Jul
10:41 p.m.
On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 20:37:40 +0200
Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas <pedro.lopez.cabanillas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
The subject says all: my messages to the mailing list linux-audio-announce
are being blocked.
Regards,
Pedro
Hi,
maybe not. Do you actually get a reply with blocked, or does simply nothing show up?
I was the only one to moderate the list for years now, did so several times per day.
I don't do that anymore since a week or two.
Nils
10:53 p.m.
On domingo, 4 de julio de 2021 20:41:13 (CEST) Nils Hilbricht wrote:
On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 20:37:40 +0200
Pedro Lopez-Cabanillas <pedro.lopez.cabanillas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I don't get a rejection message. Simply nothing shows up.
I've sent an announcement last tuesday, June 29, and resent the same
message today, after seeing another announcement from LAA sent by Rui
today. So, some messages are being allowed, but not mine.
Regards,
Pedro
Hi,
The subject says all: my messages to the mailing list
linux-audio-announce are being blocked.
Regards,
Pedro
Hi,
maybe not. Do you actually get a reply with blocked, or does simply
nothing show up?
I was the only one to moderate the list for years now, did so several
times per day. I don't do that anymore since a week or two.
Nils
11 p.m.
maybe not. Do
you actually get a reply with blocked, or does simply
nothing show up?
I was the only one to moderate the list for years now, did so several
times per day. I don't do that anymore since a week or two.
Nils
Hi,
I don't get a rejection message. Simply nothing shows up.
I've sent an announcement last tuesday, June 29, and resent the same
message today, after seeing another announcement from LAA sent by Rui
today. So, some messages are being allowed, but not mine.
11:17 p.m.
On domingo, 4 de julio de 2021 21:00:00 (CEST) Nils Hilbricht wrote:
Then it is simply the moderation.
I set Rui and one or two people to "no need for moderation" over the
years for trustworthy behaviour. But if nobody will accept the mails
they will simply not be sent through.
Nils
Then something must change here: either another moderator steps up and does
the job, or the mandatory moderation policy must be removed. It is
unacceptable that some legitimate announcements are blocked, while only
some friends are allowed to send messages to the list.
I don't use the LAD & LAU mailing lists now, but if the same policy is
being applied then this is an even more serious issue.
Regards,
Pedro
maybe not. Do you actually get a reply with blocked,
or does simply
nothing show up?
I was the only one to moderate the list for years now, did so several
times per day. I don't do that anymore since a week or two.
Nils
Hi,
I don't get a rejection message. Simply nothing shows up.
I've sent an announcement last tuesday, June 29, and resent the same
message today, after seeing another announcement from LAA sent by Rui
today. So, some messages are being allowed, but not mine.
5 Jul
5 Jul
midnight
Then something must change here: either another
moderator steps up and does
the job, or the mandatory moderation policy must be removed. It is
unacceptable that some legitimate announcements are blocked, while only
some friends are allowed to send messages to the list.
I don't use the LAD & LAU mailing lists now, but if the same policy is
being applied then this is an even more serious issue.
Or the list just gets shut down in favour of something like libreav.org.
This list really needs moderation btw. The difference to LAD and LAU is that anybody can
send, which is a good idea.
There *is* regular spam on there, and some people are always trying to anwer to release
mails, on purpose or by accident.
It is also not a matter of friend or foe. These were simply persons that regulary sent
release mails. To lift their moderation flag was simply a matter of "less work for
me".
Nils
12:34 a.m.
On domingo, 4 de julio de 2021 22:00:16 (CEST) Nils Hilbricht wrote:
It is also not a matter of friend or foe. These were
simply persons that
regulary sent release mails. To lift their moderation flag was simply a
matter of "less work for me".
I don't buy your explanation. If you compare the number of messages sent to
LAA by Rui and myself recently, they are quite similar. So, there is a
much simpler one: everyone except your friends have been canceled. Or
should I say "nuligita" ? :-)
Regards,
Pedro
12:41 a.m.
On Sun, 04 Jul 2021 22:34:00 +0200
pedro.lopez.cabanillas(a)gmail.com wrote:
On domingo, 4 de julio de 2021 22:00:16 (CEST) Nils
Hilbricht wrote:
It is quite obvious that you did not sent, for maybe a decade or more, many release
announcements per year, 2 or 3 mails per literal season.
Please choose your words more carefully in a public place like this, if you value your
reputation.
I'm just a guy who was annoyed by the fact that one had to wait for days or weeks
until an LAA mail got through some years ago and took moderation in my own hands. Which
worked well until I stopped recently.
It is also not a matter of friend or foe. These
were simply persons that
regulary sent release mails. To lift their moderation flag was simply a
matter of "less work for me".
I don't buy your explanation. If you compare the number of messages sent to
LAA by Rui and myself recently, they are quite similar. So, there is a
much simpler one: everyone except your friends have been canceled. Or
should I say "nuligita" ? :-)
1:05 a.m.
On domingo, 4 de julio de 2021 22:00:16 (CEST) Nils Hilbricht wrote:
Is this the real goal of all this? a takeover?
Did you send a warning message somewhere to inform of your intentions of
stepping down as a moderator? And give someone the opportunity to volunteer
for your job?
Regards,
Pedro
Then something
must change here: either another moderator steps up and
does the job, or the mandatory moderation policy must be removed. It
is unacceptable that some legitimate announcements are blocked, while
only some friends are allowed to send messages to the list.
I don't use the LAD & LAU mailing lists now, but if the same policy is
being applied then this is an even more serious issue.
Or the list just gets shut down in favour of something like libreav.org. 
1:58 a.m.
On 7/4/21 9:17 PM, pedro.lopez.cabanillas(a)gmail.com wrote:
Then something must change here: either another
moderator steps up and does
the job, or the mandatory moderation policy must be removed.
I agree with the first part, but short of a moderator the list should be
blocked or removed.
There are various downstream channels that automatically source LAA and
rely on the fact that it's SPAM free and announcement only.
It is unacceptable that some legitimate announcements
are blocked,
while only some friends are allowed to send messages to the list.
I agree with that. There should be no dedicated whitelist.
--
robin
11:37 a.m.
Hello,
On 04-07-2021 23:58, Robin Gareus wrote:
On 7/4/21 9:17 PM, pedro.lopez.cabanillas(a)gmail.com
wrote:
I'll take over moderation of LAA.
Then something must change here: either another
moderator steps up and does
the job, or the mandatory moderation policy must be removed.
I agree with the first part, but short of a moderator the list should be
blocked or removed. There are various downstream channels that
automatically source LAA and
rely on the fact that it's SPAM free and announcement only.
I'll remove the whitelist.
Best,
Jeremy
It is unacceptable that some legitimate
announcements are blocked,
while only some friends are allowed to send messages to the list.
I agree with that. There should be no dedicated whitelist.
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