31 Jan
2004
31 Jan
'04
8:33 p.m.
when the new LAD site is up, i will suggest LAUD as
the new
general-purpose acronym for the community around the lists. however,
for practical reasons, i would like to retain LA[DAU] as shorthand
for the individual lists. those who don't like the accidental
connotation can spell it out :)
i'm with andrea in that changing the name is not going to change the
attitude.
"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Lad Lad, n. OE. ladde, of Celtic origin; cf. W. llawd, Ir.
lath. root123. Cf. Lass.
1. A boy; a youth; a stripling. ``Cupid is a knavish lad.''
--Shak.
There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves
and two small fishes. --John vi. 9.
2. A companion; a comrade; a mate.
Lad's love. (Bot.) See Boy's love, under Boy.
"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Lad Lad, obs.
p. p. of Lead, to guide. --Chaucer.
"WordNet (r) 2.0"
lad
n 1: a boy or man; "that chap is your host"; "there's a fellow at
the door"; "he's a likable cuss" syn: chap, fellow,
feller, gent, fella, blighter, cuss
2: a male child (a familiar term of address to a boy) syn: cub,
laddie, sonny, sonny boy
I'm not sure LAUD is the right abbrev. since LAU stands for users, LAD for developers.
The interpretation could be misleading.
Linux AUDio
Linux Audio Users Developers
+
LAD has been here since 7 years or so, i don't think it's worth changing it.
People got used to it.
There are some very cool female linux audio developers, there's Melanie, the author of
DJPlay IIRC
and there's Alicia(don't know her family name) doing some very cool physical
modelling research.
Marek
31 Jan
31 Jan
8:50 p.m.
Marek Peteraj wrote:
and me.
Marek, did you actually read my story of my experiences of being snubbed
when i had a female name on LAD?
what you're missing is the connotations in modern British and American
usage of the word Lad as an obnoxious lout. the OED usage has long died
out.
think yob - drunken, lecherous louts who treat women as objects. do a
google search for 'laddish culture' and you'll find out what i mean. it
was all the vogue in Britain in the mid-90s, and we women had to suffer
- unless we chose to lose our self respect and become 'laddettes' - the
female equivalent, girls who will drink themselves into embarrassment
and then sleep with anyone or anything with legs.
if English isn't your first language, the OED won't give you the
connotations of this word as its used today.
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when the new
LAD site is up, i will suggest LAUD as the new
general-purpose acronym for the community around the lists. however,
for practical reasons, i would like to retain LA[DAU] as shorthand
for the individual lists. those who don't like the accidental
connotation can spell it out :)
i'm with andrea in that changing the name is not going to change the
attitude.
"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Lad Lad, n. OE. ladde, of Celtic origin; cf. W. llawd, Ir.
lath. root123. Cf. Lass.
1. A boy; a youth; a stripling. ``Cupid is a knavish lad.''
--Shak.
There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves
and two small fishes. --John vi. 9.
2. A companion; a comrade; a mate.
Lad's love. (Bot.) See Boy's love, under Boy.
"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
Lad Lad, obs.
p. p. of Lead, to guide. --Chaucer.
"WordNet (r) 2.0"
lad
n 1: a boy or man; "that chap is your host"; "there's a fellow at
the door"; "he's a likable cuss" syn: chap, fellow,
feller, gent, fella, blighter, cuss
2: a male child (a familiar term of address to a boy) syn: cub,
laddie, sonny, sonny boy
I'm not sure LAUD is the right abbrev. since LAU stands for users, LAD for developers.
The interpretation could be misleading.
Linux AUDio
Linux Audio Users Developers
+
LAD has been here since 7 years or so, i don't think it's worth changing it.
People got used to it.
There are some very cool female linux audio developers, there's Melanie, the author of
DJPlay IIRC
and there's Alicia(don't know her family name) doing some very cool physical
modelling research.
11:45 p.m.
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 05:55:27PM +0000, iriXx wrote:
Marek, did you actually read my story of my
experiences of being snubbed
when i had a female name on LAD?
I was curious to read the original thread(s).
Do you have links to examples?
It would be interesting to re-read old threads with this
perspective in mind.
--
Paul Winkler
http://www.slinkp.com
Look! Up in the sky! It's TEACHER AMBIDEXTROUS FRIEND !
(random hero from isometric.spaceninja.com)
1 Feb
1 Feb
2:15 a.m.
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 18:55, iriXx wrote:
I did, but i think there's nothing to hide, it's very nice to see female
developers and users on LAD/LAU.
The problem with LAUD is that it represents both users and developers,
but there are 2 mailing lists.
Besides, it's time to make LAD a better word. :)
Marek
Marek Peteraj wrote:
>>when the new LAD site is up, i will suggest LAUD as the new
>>general-purpose acronym for the community around the lists. however,
>>for practical reasons, i would like to retain LA[DAU] as shorthand
>>for the individual lists. those who don't like the accidental
>>connotation can spell it out :)
>>i'm with andrea in that changing the name is not going to change the
>>attitude.
>>
>>
>
>"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
>Lad Lad, n. OE. ladde, of Celtic origin; cf. W. llawd, Ir.
> lath. root123. Cf. Lass.
> 1. A boy; a youth; a stripling. ``Cupid is a knavish lad.''
> --Shak.
>
> There is a lad here, which hath five barley loaves
> and two small fishes. --John vi. 9.
>
> 2. A companion; a comrade; a mate.
>
> Lad's love. (Bot.) See Boy's love, under Boy.
>
>"Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)"
>Lad Lad, obs.
> p. p. of Lead, to guide. --Chaucer.
>
>"WordNet (r) 2.0"
>lad
> n 1: a boy or man; "that chap is your host"; "there's a
fellow at
> the door"; "he's a likable cuss" syn: chap, fellow,
> feller, gent, fella, blighter, cuss
> 2: a male child (a familiar term of address to a boy) syn: cub,
> laddie, sonny, sonny boy
>
>I'm not sure LAUD is the right abbrev. since LAU stands for users, LAD for
developers.
>The interpretation could be misleading.
>
>Linux AUDio
>Linux Audio Users Developers
>
>+
>
>LAD has been here since 7 years or so, i don't think it's worth changing it.
>People got used to it.
i mean for 7 years, since 1997, archived since 1998 IIRC.
There are some very cool female linux audio developers, there's Melanie, the author of
DJPlay IIRC
and there's Alicia(don't know her family name) doing some very cool physical
modelling research.
and me.
Marek, did you actually read my story of my experiences of being snubbed
when i had a female name on LAD?
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