This looks like an opportunity to beef up audio side of things as well as foster development of another powerful foss multimedia software. See below for more info. Best wishes, Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Director, Linuxaudio.org Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico(a)linuxaudio.org www.linuxadio.org -----Original Message----- From: piksel-bounces(a)bek.no [mailto:piksel-bounces@bek.no] On Behalf Of Fabianne Balvedi Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:05 PM To: p1k53l workshop Subject: [piksel] Fwd: [estudiolivre] I believe in cinelerra ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Leo germani <leogermani(a)gmail.com> Date: Jan 18, 2008 7:53 PM Subject: [estudiolivre] I believe in cinelerra To: estudiolivre <estudiolivre(a)lists.riseup.net>et>, Felipe Fonseca <felipefonseca(a)gmail.com> What Develop cinelerra as a professional free/libre video editing tool. Why Cinelerra is the most powerfull free software for video editting we have nowadays. Although it has many resources and that it is far more advanced than any other Open Source video software, its development is very slow and has no sponsor. Its main developer, Heroine Warrior, do not mantain a SVN or a mailing list. The last official release was last july and there is no sign of a upcoming version of cinelerra. They usually publish a new release every six month or so but do it only for their own needs and do not talk with the community much. Few developers mantain a fork called "Community Version". All out of volunteer work they mantain a SV a mailing list and an online wiki. They also fix some bugs and add some features to the code. This desorganized development results in a mess. There is no official stable release and package for the distributions, and cinelerra is now known as very hard to install and unstable software (although it got really better last year). Also, first contact with cinelerra is usually disappointing because of a not well resolved interface and also because of big flaws it has on some funcionalities. With all that said, it happens that we have a software that is, at the same time, powerfull enough to do any kind of editing, but weak enough to have very basic issues of usability. And the feeling all advanced users have is: We are pretty close to have high standard software! To learn more about the mess, take a look at this page: http://cv.cinelerra.org/about.php Many of the actions described on this plan are already been done by many people, but in a rather heroic way. If this people got motivated, organized and _paid_, cinelerra would increase its quality dramatically in a short period of time. The Plan 1. Get the community together The community of developers today is very small and spread, and cinelerra has no road map. First thing to do is gather this people to discuss about the future of cinelerra, identify the main flaws and its solution, make a plan to organize the place and set up for new features. Cinelerra needs a project leader, an interface designer, and more people with defined roles that should be choosen on this meeting. Developers of other softwares are also welcome. Cinelerra is, so far, the only video free editing video editing software with professional approach, but it could share a lot of things with other software, such as effects, for example, that shoul be usable in any video software, just like we have LADSPA for audio. There is already a video effect standar called Frei0r that cinelerra does not support. 2. Diagnostics Cinelerra code is not very well documented, so few people have the idea of how tuff is to deal with it. Second step is to see what must be done so we can invite more people to colaborate with the code. Documentation, refactoring, etc. It also has to work on the API so other people can write plugins and effects. In other words, lots of work that are a pain in the ass but has to be done in order to advance properly. And passion has a limit. There must be people getting money to work on that. 3. Make a plan Based on the diagnostics and on researches with users and other video editing tools, define how cinelerra will look and act in a not so distant future. With that goal in mind, make a reasonable plan to make it happen. 3. Set up a core development team No secret here. Few people dedicated to make it happen, including an interface designer. 4. Bounties The core team can offer bounties for parts of the job they choose. This will attracat more developers to the community. 5. Attract contributors Mantain a nice looking website, a wiki, tools for easy translation of the interface and of the online documentation, etc. are goos strategies to attract people to contribute. Its also important to find people to package the software for different distributions. -- leogermani.pirex.com.br leogermani.estudiolivre.org ________________________________ Lista de Discussão do Estúdio Livre portal colaborativo -> http://www.estudiolivre.org/ sobre esta lista -> http://lists.riseup.net/www/info/estudiolivre -- Fabianne Balvedi GNU User #286985 http://fabs.estudiolivre.org "As contradições mais agudas da vida humana não foram feitas para serem solucionadas, mas vividas com plena ciência de seu carater paradoxal." Isma'il Al-Faruqi _______________________________________________ piksel mailing list piksel(a)bek.no https://www.bek.no/mailman/listinfo/piksel http://www.piksel.no