21 Dec
2006
21 Dec
'06
9:07 p.m.
To all members:
Regarding this project we really need more input from the community. Hence,
I would greatly appreciate everyone's comments on the "Made in Linux" text
for the cover. Namely, what should be included on it?
Also, Daniel, what did you do with the copyright notice given that different
pieces have different copyrights. Is this somewhere on-file (i.e. URL) where
we could point users to?
As far as the copyright notice is concerned, my suggestion would be to
simply state something along these lines:
"(c) 2004-6. All works are copyright of their respective authors and are
distributed either by author's permission or according to their respective
licenses which are available <state where>. CD cover design copyright
Thorsten Wilms. 'Made in Linux' copyright Linuxaudio.org."
This should probably be stated in small print at the bottom of the back side
of the cover. I am not sure whether we should state on the cover that the
music was entirely done in Linux, since the title of the series already
clearly implies this and ultimately such a comment may detract from the
artistic value.
Finally, Thorsten, would you be willing to simply readapt the front cover to
fit the CD label (for those who may opt for doing CD labels)?
Best wishes,
Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A.
Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, and CHCI
Virginia Tech
Dept. of Music - 0240
Blacksburg, VA 24061
(540) 231-1137
(540) 231-5034 (fax)
ico(a)vt.edu
http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic/
22 Dec
22 Dec
12:33 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:06:16PM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
"(c) 2004-6. All works are copyright of their respective authors and are
distributed either by author's permission or according to their respective
licenses which are available <state where>. CD cover design copyright
Thorsten Wilms. 'Made in Linux' copyright Linuxaudio.org."
I think that would make us sound like copyright fanatics. If nothing
else is stated, it's a given copyright remains with each author,
linuxaudio.org has permission to distribute, noone else has.
Listing the various licneses with the tracks would make more sense
(requires a rather small font, though).
I am not sure whether we should state on the cover
that the
music was entirely done in Linux, since the title of the series already
clearly implies this and ultimately such a comment may detract from the
artistic value.
We should not, title makes it clear.
Finally, Thorsten, would you be willing to simply
readapt the front cover to
fit the CD label (for those who may opt for doing CD labels)?
I wonder how many that might be ... but I will look into it.
--
Thorsten Wilms
Thorwil's Creature Illustrations:
http://www.printfection.com/thorwil
1:12 p.m.
"(c)
2004-6. All works are copyright of their respective authors and are
distributed either by author's permission or according to their respective
licenses which are available <state where>. CD cover design copyright
Thorsten Wilms. 'Made in Linux' copyright Linuxaudio.org."
I think that would make us sound like copyright fanatics.
5:26 p.m.
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:06:16PM -0500, Ivica Ico
Bukvic wrote:
Given that we need to respect authors' copyrights when distributing this in
today's society (especially since they are "giving away" their works), we
need to spell out the license terms clearly and leave nothing to chance.
Perhaps I am looking at this as an administrator, but even if authors'
licenses allow redistribution, this should be somehow stated on the cover as
to allow end-users to be made aware of this info (as it is right now they
don't even know which songs are freely distributable). Otherwise, if we do
not protect our members and/or our own identity, we will lose a number of
potential submissions down the road, needless to mention engage in potential
legal battles (which we cannot afford anyhow) to protect what is legally
ours.
In that respect I am fine with listing licenses under the titles. Although
we still need the copyright statement at the bottom for Thorsten's work as
well as for the Linuxaudio.org.
"(c) 2004-6. All works are copyright of their respective authors and are
distributed either by author's permission or according to their
respective
licenses which are available <state where>.
CD cover design copyright
Thorsten Wilms. 'Made in Linux' copyright Linuxaudio.org."
I think that would make us sound like copyright fanatics. If nothing
else is stated, it's a given copyright remains with each author,
linuxaudio.org has permission to distribute, noone else has.
Listing the various licneses with the tracks would make more sense
(requires a rather small font, though). I am not sure whether we should state on the
cover that the
music was entirely done in Linux, since the title of the series already
clearly implies this and ultimately such a comment may detract from the
artistic value.
We should not, title makes it clear. Finally, Thorsten, would you be willing to simply
readapt the front
cover to
fit the CD label (for those who may opt for doing
CD labels)?
I wonder how many that might be ... but I will look into it.
29 Dec
29 Dec
2:25 p.m.
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 10:25:56AM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
In that respect I am fine with listing licenses under the titles. Although
we still need the copyright statement at the bottom for Thorsten's work as
well as for the Linuxaudio.org.
For all I know it isn't necessary to claim copyright at all (it used
to be in the US in the past). For myself, I only want credit, that's all.
But I'll try to make copy this and copy that fit.
I just copied the individual licenses from
http://linuxaudio.org/en/music/index.html
Are the Creative Commons ones without version number valid at all?
May I asume 1.0 where it's missing? Else the authors should be
contacted.
I think this chaos makes us look silly. Who even knows about a
Green or a Personal Music License? All rights reserved is a bit
strange for something everyone can downlaod from a website for
free. Now it's a given for this CD, but should be avoided for
the next.
There should be links for the licenses. Explanations in the
booklet, especialy if CDs are to be sold. For the next CD and a
limited set of licenses, that is ;)
--
Thorsten Wilms
Thorwil's Creature Illustrations:
http://www.printfection.com/thorwil
30 Dec
30 Dec
1:19 a.m.
For all I know it isn't necessary to claim
copyright at all (it used
to be in the US in the past). For myself, I only want credit, that's all.
But I'll try to make copy this and copy that fit.
Given the distribution format, in US it is a must and likely in other places
as well. Since 1) this will be likely disseminated internationally and 2) it
is our responsibility to uphold and represent licenses of respective
authors, we need to have this notice.
I just copied the individual licenses from
http://linuxaudio.org/en/music/index.html
Are the Creative Commons ones without version number valid at all?
May I asume 1.0 where it's missing? Else the authors should be
contacted.
Dunno. Daniel may have a better idea over this one since he was the one who
dealt with that aspect.
I think this chaos makes us look silly. Who even knows
about a
Green or a Personal Music License? All rights reserved is a bit
strange for something everyone can downlaod from a website for
free. Now it's a given for this CD, but should be avoided for
the next.
Well, you have game demos and/or artwork which are "all rights reserved"
(and worse) but which are still freely downloadable. Hence, this simply
means that there is implicit permission for Linuxaudio.org to distribute it
and for end-user to listen to it, nothing else.
When we become incorporated as a non-profit, legal stuff as mundane as it
is, will be an important part of everything we do. In order to protect our
integrity and what we stand for, unfortunately in today's world we simply
have to build strong legal foundations.
There should be links for the licenses. Explanations
in the
booklet, especialy if CDs are to be sold. For the next CD and a
limited set of licenses, that is ;)
Good point. This IMHO will be a lot easier, however, once we have ISBN and
official channels of distributing this.
Best wishes,
Ico
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