Yes film and TV post is where I have heard of it being more useful, but since I just got up I will leave that for the moment until my brain is more awake;)

Fons replied off list and we discussed his example some, The situations was similar to what i had thought, where a 4 point edit was one possible way to do it, but far from the only.solution, and probably wouldn't be what I personally used.  The real issue was A2's lack of an ability to move automation with regions, which Carl has addressed in A3 IIRC.  I didn't spell this out as much as I should have in my reply to Fons on list however due to typing on my cell phone at the time:)

    Seablade

PS For the record yes I understand an overdub wouldn't be likely in classical recording, an even less so in tracking live performances which is more of what I am used to doing obviously, but in that particular situation is something I could see doing since the singer had requested it I assume they were present.  However this wasn't the situation presented above, thus my post above.

2011/2/27 Andres Cabrera <mantaraya36@gmail.com>
Hi,

This feature is actually also very useful in post production for film
or TV, where often you get a video edit after you've started doing
your mixing, and you have to move big blocks of tracks in time. I'd
also like to know if there's a simple way to do this in ardour, or to
add my vote for it =)

Cheers,
Andres

2011/2/27 Jörn Nettingsmeier <nettings@folkwang-hochschule.de>:
> On 02/27/2011 01:05 AM, Thomas Vecchione wrote:
>>
>> Fons
>>
>> Being someone that tracks recordings live constantly, I am curious, if
>> the singer only wanted to overdub one section of their vocals with
>> another, and you are not touching the remainder of the recorded tracks,
>> exactly what stops you from doing a standard punch in/out in your example?
>
> in classical recording sessions, overdubs happen rarely if ever.
> i guess the situation here is that multiple full or partial takes were
> recorded with the full ensemble, and the editing happens afterwards, when
> all musicians are gone.
> iiuc, the soloist requested one section to be replaced with another take.
> since there is no "click", this usually means that the part after the new
> spliced-in section will move in time, slightly.
> which is a bit of a problem in ardour while you haven't consolidated region
> fragments (which often you don't want to do until the very end), because you
> have to be very careful to move all subsequent regions.
> easy in the vertical thanks to edit groups, but quite hard in the
> horizontal. or maybe i'm overlooking yet another feature?
>
> best,
>
> jörn
>
>
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