2009/9/5 Ralf Mardorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">

<div><div class="h5">Ray Rashif wrote:<br>
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How could I forget - e17 actually has _a lot_ of potential. More than KDE as a whole.<br>
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But that&#39;s all it has - potential.<br>
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I&#39;m an e17 and KDE user and IMHO you are wrong, just because KDE is stable and e17 very, very often is a PITA. I might be wrong, but I guess KDE is able to do nearly everything e17 could do + a little bit more. The only reason not to use KDE3 or KDE4 is the usage of resources by this DE. In addition I would suggest to use KDE with KWin and not a WM that needs proprietary graphics drivers. I&#39;m only referring to the so called &quot;pro-audio&quot; usage.<br>

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</font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t know what you&#39;re getting at, but I hope you understand the meaning of &quot;potential&quot;. It&#39;s evident that e17 has got it right especially when its fancy graphical effects works smoothly on an AMD K6. That&#39;s a start, because in that way we know nothing is choking (especially in KWin where there are random artifacts if compositing is disabled). What I&#39;m saying is that it _can_ be comparable to KDE&#39;s usability, sometime in the future when it&#39;s stable.<br>

</div><div><br></div><div>For now I have to keep LXDE as a secondary environment.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway what WM needs proprietary graphics drivers?</div>