Call me cynical, and the plugin authors certainly have the last say,
but there seems to be a rather large dose of hypocrisy going on
here....


I think it would be safe to say that if this AJ character decided to post here then things would get a little more heated and some anger would be dished out.

It's probably a lot less stressful for him to attempt to keep a low profile and try to deal with this off list.

In regards to the issue with impro-visor there is probably also a little bit of assumed knowledge that he would be able to handle the debate as he is from a university environment and obviously knows how to get around a Linux system and therefore has probably experienced the intensity of discussion that a list like LAD can bring out.

I'm not sure if it's hypocrisy? I think this is a different situation being handled by different parties and being tackled defensively whereas the impro-visor issue was forced confrontation.


Cheers.

Patrick Shirkey
Boost Hardware Ltd





On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Michael Fisher<mfisher31@gmail.com> wrote:
  
Everybody,

Good.  I wasn't really trying to get Beat Kangz in trouble or anything
like that.  More than anything I was just disappointed to see that these
LADSPA plugins were being distributed with their software with not a
single mention of credit to the actual developers.  As a computer
programmer myself I understand the work involved in creating code.  The
way I found out about this was me running the program from terminal and
with the mac Console open to submit some bug reports to them.  That
reminds me, I still need to do that.

I actually know one of the staff members at beat kangz, so I really am
not interested in causing trouble.  Credit due, where credit deserved is
all.  And I figured the LADSPA developers should be aware of what was
going on.  I suppose it's not really that big of a deal, because say I
had those plugins already installed on my system, then the Beat Kangz
software would only be searching for and loading them.  My problem was
that their installer included them, which would be distribution of GPL'd
software.

That would be pretty awesome if they decided to open development.
Really, it would only make their products much stronger.  If their using
LADSPA plugins, I can only assume that development is taking place in a
Linux/*nix type environment as they are obviously familiar with Linux
Audio stuff.  Wouldn't surprise me if the actual hardware "box" is
running an embedded linux of some sort.

On the lighter side...  The Virtual Beat Thang is in my opinion pretty
nice.  A few bugs here and there (the thing just came out), but really
not a bad peace of work.  Great drum sounds.  I have it working with
jack-osx which makes it even more powerful.  Might as well just make it
natively support jack in my opinion.

-Mike

Ronald Stewart wrote:
    
GPL Violation Alert! - I talked with the President of Beat Kangz today
his name is A.J. and he is a sweetheart and his head is on straight.
He is currently going to work on an official statement and he wants to
embrace and thank the developers and give the authors credit on their
software and materials moving forward.  Additionally, Beat Kangz is
interested in opening up development with authors to make Beat Kangz
even better including funding open source development and projects.

I think the hiccup is that they didn't know how to properly
thank/engage in regards to GPL and such.  It's sounds like more of a
noob thing and definitely not a jerk thing.  Let's give these guys the
benefit of the doubt because their heads are on stragiht.

Stay tuned.

Much Love.

Thank you

Ronald Stewart
Creative Director
Trinity Audio Group Inc.
9854 National Blvd. #322
Los Angeles CA 90034
310-733-9285
ronaldjstewart@gmail.com <mailto:ronaldjstewart@gmail.com>
www.indamixx.com <http://www.indamixx.com>
      
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