29 Jul
2008
29 Jul
'08
11:21 a.m.
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
Ciao,
--
FA
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Parma, Italia
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
29 Jul
29 Jul
11:57 a.m.
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux
?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
what basic requirements does inkscape fail?
you could check into xara.
12:16 p.m.
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:57:03 -0400, Paul Davis <paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
I'd say PDF/PS export is not there yet. PNG has always been there but not
JPEG.
Although, IMHO, Inkscape is one the those FLOSS jewels I love. This depends
a lot on what you want to do with it of course...
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Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for
Linux ?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
what basic requirements does inkscape fail? 
1:15 p.m.
On dt, 2008-07-29 at 16:16 +0200, MarcOChapeau wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:57:03 -0400, Paul Davis
<paul(a)linuxaudiosystems.com>
wrote:
Yes it's there (I'm using version 0.46 - Apr 2008)
I actually use it as the preferred command-line SVG->PDF converter for
LaTeX docs:
$ inkscape <source-svg> --without-gui --export-pdf=<target-pdf>
I'm curious to know what other requirements does inkscape fail, because
I find it extremely useful -- it is true that you have to get use to
some tricks, like for example painting arrows.
Pau
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
I'd say PDF/PS export is not there yet. PNG has always been there but not
JPEG. Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for
Linux ?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
what basic requirements does inkscape fail?
30 Jul
30 Jul
4:29 a.m.
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:15:52 +0200, Pau Arumí <parumi(a)iua.upf.edu> wrote:
On dt, 2008-07-29 at 16:16 +0200, MarcOChapeau wrote:
Oh ! good surprise. I need to update I guess :-)
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I'd say PDF/PS export is not there yet. PNG
has always been there but
not
JPEG.
Yes it's there (I'm using version 0.46 - Apr 2008)
I actually use it as the preferred command-line SVG->PDF converter for
LaTeX docs:
$ inkscape <source-svg> --without-gui --export-pdf=<target-pdf>
I'm curious to know what other requirements does inkscape fail, because
I find it extremely useful -- it is true that you have to get use to
some tricks, like for example painting arrows. 
29 Jul
29 Jul
12:11 p.m.
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux
?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
XCircuit ?
Alas, you'd have to convert images to PPM, but I think it meets most of
your other requirements.
http://opencircuitdesign.com/xcircuit/
Best,
dp
12:19 p.m.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)kokkinizita.net> wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux
?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
Ciao,
--
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What about Xfig ? Its GUI is a bit old-fashioned, but efficient.
Adrien
12:46 p.m.
I don't know what happened to this one: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
Because this one doesn't exist: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/download/
1:06 p.m.
On Tue, July 29, 2008 15:05, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ?
OpenOffice.org Draw?
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4:03 p.m.
Hi Fons,
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux ?
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Gnome Dia yet. It's a fine program
and I'm using it for all my vector diagrams since years. In my opinion
there are only a few things really missing from it:
* Rotation like rotating text or rotating objects. There ain't
even a 90° rotation.
* Gradient fills
* More developer care. Development activity seems to be quite low
recently. But fortunately you can use python for scripting.
Besides that it's very usable and works very well for me.
Just noticed that postscript export is not as obvious as it might be,
though. You can't export a postscript file but need print to it.
Yours sincerely,
Dennis Schulmeister
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5:43 p.m.
I'll be honest in that I personally find QCad to be invaluable for 2D
drafting. I am not sure exactly how you are planning on using the vector
drawing program is part of the problem. In the past I have also used
Inkscape for web design, and OpenOffice Draw for some things as well. I,
like others, am curious how QCad and Inkscape fail these basic requirements
for you?
Seablade
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Dennis Schulmeister <
linux-audio-dev(a)windows3.de> wrote:
Hi Fons,
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 15:05 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for
Linux ?
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Gnome Dia yet. It's a fine program
and I'm using it for all my vector diagrams since years. In my opinion
there are only a few things really missing from it:
* Rotation like rotating text or rotating objects. There ain't
even a 90° rotation.
* Gradient fills
* More developer care. Development activity seems to be quite low
recently. But fortunately you can use python for scripting.
Besides that it's very usable and works very well for me.
Just noticed that postscript export is not as obvious as it might be,
though. You can't export a postscript file but need print to it.
Yours sincerely,
Dennis Schulmeister
--
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Tel: +49 721/5978883 - Mob: +49 152/01994400 - eMail: dennis(a)windows3.de
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30 Jul
9:45 a.m.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 01:43:00PM -0600, Thomas Vecchione wrote:
I'll be honest in that I personally find QCad to
be invaluable for 2D
drafting. I am not sure exactly how you are planning on using the vector
drawing program is part of the problem. In the past I have also used
Inkscape for web design, and OpenOffice Draw for some things as well. I,
like others, am curious how QCad and Inkscape fail these basic requirements
for you?
Thanks to all who responded. A short report of my adventures
in CAD land:
* Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still can't draw a simple
rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change
that have failed.
* Qcad. Some very nice and unique features. Several problems:
- It doesn't seem to use anything but 'plotter fonts' (i.e.
just lines),
- It doesn't seem to have arrows on lines
- It doesn't seem to have a concept of a 'path', I've not
been able to create e.g, a series of connected lines, move
a point and keep the lines connected,
- Printing to PS works, but the layout in the print preview
doesn't correspond to the output. No EPS, so converting to
PDF produces a full page and not a figure that can be inserted
into a pdflatex document.
* Xfig crashed within five minutes.
* Xcircuit segfaulted within three minutes.
The others I have still to try.
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Parma, Italia
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E guerra e morte !
10 a.m.
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
* Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still
can't draw a simple
rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change
that have failed.
Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object
menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the
Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second
box Flat Color.
You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour
on a white background.
Erik
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11:41 a.m.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
That works. Any way to make that the default ?
Effective linewidths are quite different from what
is set in that dialog.
Other problems: prints PDF but only full page, i.e.
again not usable to insert into latex.
Inkscape lookd more and more as some GUI interface
to Cairo. ATM I can write the Cairo code a lot
faster than using the GUI...
Ciao,
--
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Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica
Parma, Italia
O tu, che porte, correndo si ?
E guerra e morte !
* Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still
can't draw a simple
rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change
that have failed.
Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object
menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the
Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second
box Flat Color.
You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour
on a white background.
2:37 p.m.
On dc, 2008-07-30 at 15:25 +0200, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +1000, Erik de
Castro Lopo wrote:
It works flawlessly here. My latex compile script does this
$ inkscape <source-svg> --without-gui --export-eps=<target-eps>
$ epstopdf <source-eps> -o=<target-pdf>
And it generates a pdf that perfectly fits the drawn area.
I thought that the direct svg->pdf command (inkscape <source-svg> --without-gui
--export-pdf=<target-pdf>) also behaved this way but probably not. And perhaps this
is why I'm using the two steps method.
P
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
That works. Any way to make that the default ?
Effective linewidths are quite different from what
is set in that dialog.
Other problems: prints PDF but only full page, i.e.
again not usable to insert into latex. * Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still
can't draw a simple
rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change
that have failed.
Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object
menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the
Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second
box Flat Color.
You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour
on a white background.
5:51 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 06:37:48PM +0200, Pau Arumí wrote:
It works flawlessly here. My latex compile script
does this
$ inkscape <source-svg> --without-gui --export-eps=<target-eps>
$ epstopdf <source-eps> -o=<target-pdf>
And it generates a pdf that perfectly fits the drawn area.
Nice trick.
It's probably a nice program for more artistic work, but I find
it near unusable for anything technical.
Meanwhile I tried to make tgif use a smaller internal unit.
It *seemed* simple. The unit and a number of conversion macros
are defined in one header. And then in a lot of places the
macros are just bypassed...
Ciao,
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Laboratorio di Acustica ed Elettroacustica
Parma, Italia
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E guerra e morte !
4:42 p.m.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:00:28PM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
It would be better to choose no fill (the X on the fill tab) rather than
just making it 0 alpha.
* Inkscape. After two hours of trying I still
can't draw a simple
rectangle. It gets filled (in blue) and all attempts to change
that have failed.
Draw the rectangle (it will be blue), then go to the Object
menu and choose Fill and Stroke. In the Fill pane, wind the
Alpha down to zero. In the Stroke Paint pane chose the second
box Flat Color.
You should now have a black rectangle, without any fill colour
on a white background.
noon
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Fons Adriaensen <fons(a)kokkinizita.net> wrote:
* Xfig crashed within five minutes.
Wow ! I used to work with Xfig for longtime (now I use Inkscape), and
I am surprised that it offered you a crash (particularly so rapidly) !
Anyway, my advise would be to take the time to know Inkscape, it
really is a great software. A good point is that you can include latex
equations in it with textext, and even modify them. Wonderful, isn't
it ? :)
Adrien
1:23 p.m.
Ok that explains things a bit at least, thank you Fons.
You are correct in that there are no connections(I think are what you are
looking for rather than paths which I think of from Gimp/Photoshop/Inkscape
as a bit different in QCad. I actually used to think that was a problem,
but after doing several system one liners in QCad I have come to the
conclusion I depended on them way to much.
But at any rate, what I used for the type of drawings I believe you were
describing, believe it or not, is Open Office Draw. The last time I did one
not in QCad, Inkscape at that point did not have connections, which I
believe it does now as of last summer, so that may very well work for what
you need now. But what type of drawing specifically makes alarge difference
in the tool I chose, which is why I asked, as if I was doing a very
simplified one liner for someone that doesn't know their way around a sound
system, with images, etc. I would be looking not at QCad but one of the
other programs I mentioned.
At this point I would say look at Inkscape or Open Office Draw seriously,
and as you come across problems post a question and itll probably get
answered(Like it was previously).
Seablade
7 Aug
7 Aug
3:43 p.m.
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 09:05:46 Fons Adriaensen wrote:
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for Linux
?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
Did you look at PythonCAD?
I did some technical drawings with that...
And... when you need to have things in Latex eventually... pstricks helped me
out for my dissertation making mathematical drawings. You have to type all
your lines and so on, but I found that much faster than trying to draw
something in a graphical environment.
There are also some tools to make an eps from a ps, so that it is not full
page size anymore... ps2eps or something like that...
Actually, I am looking for some 3D software for drawing 3D structures.
Eventual output format needed is STL...
sincerely,
Marije
3:58 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 5:42 PM, nescivi <nescivi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 29 July 2008 09:05:46 Fons Adriaensen
wrote:
http://www.ualberta.ca/~cwant/blender/stl.py is a plugin to export STL
from blender, which is a great environment for modeling 3d, once you
get over the learning curve.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro is a good
wikibook tutorial, that happens to cover modeling in the first hundred
pages or so of the beginner volume.
Anyone knows a good vector drawing program for
Linux ?
Absolute requirements are:
- Lines, arrows, boxes, circles, etc.
- Linewidths and styles, colors, filling.
- Text
- PDF or PS export.
- PNG and JPEG import (no bitmap editing required).
- Accuracy.
I've been using TGIF for years, but I'm more and
more being blocked by its main flaw which is that
it seems to use a unit of 0.2mm internally (in
metric mode) which is orders of magnitude too big.
Tried QCAD and INKSCAPE, both fail basic
requirements (and have other problems).
Did you look at PythonCAD?
I did some technical drawings with that...
And... when you need to have things in Latex eventually... pstricks helped me
out for my dissertation making mathematical drawings. You have to type all
your lines and so on, but I found that much faster than trying to draw
something in a graphical environment.
There are also some tools to make an eps from a ps, so that it is not full
page size anymore... ps2eps or something like that...
Actually, I am looking for some 3D software for drawing 3D structures.
Eventual output format needed is STL...
sincerely,
Marije
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4:03 p.m.
On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:58:33 Justin Smith wrote:
thanks for the link.
At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling for animation graphics,
rather than for making realworld objects.
I need to model some things in order to "print" them on a rapid prototyping
machine...
Is Blender a suitable candidate for that?
sincerely,
Marije
Actually, I am
looking for some 3D software for drawing 3D structures.
Eventual output format needed is STL...
sincerely,
Marije
http://www.ualberta.ca/~cwant/blender/stl.py is a plugin to export STL
from blender, which is a great environment for modeling 3d, once you
get over the learning curve.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro is a good
wikibook tutorial, that happens to cover modeling in the first hundred
pages or so of the beginner volume.
4:13 p.m.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:03 PM, nescivi <nescivi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday 07 August 2008 13:58:33 Justin Smith
wrote:
thanks for the link.
At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling for animation graphics,
rather than for making realworld objects.
I need to model some things in order to "print" them on a rapid prototyping
machine...
Is Blender a suitable candidate for that?
If the STL exporter works, the blender modeling environment can be
used without paying any attention to the animation features or the
texturing, lights, camera etc. I recommend using a full keyboard with
a numpad, and a track ball mouse with at least three buttons for it to
be really usable. Most of what that introductory tutorial covers is
manipulating 3d mesh objects, which is what I presume you would want
to export for a 3d printer. I could be wrong, but I think blender will
work for what you want, and if it does not, I don't think there is any
other interactive 3d program for Linux that does what you want (maybe
open inventor?).
Actually,
I am looking for some 3D software for drawing 3D structures.
Eventual output format needed is STL...
sincerely,
Marije
http://www.ualberta.ca/~cwant/blender/stl.py is a plugin to export STL
from blender, which is a great environment for modeling 3d, once you
get over the learning curve.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Blender_3D:_Noob_to_Pro is a good
wikibook tutorial, that happens to cover modeling in the first hundred
pages or so of the beginner volume. 
4:18 p.m.
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:03 -0400, nescivi wrote:
At first sight it seems more geared to 3D modelling
for animation graphics,
rather than for making realworld objects.
I need to model some things in order to "print" them on a rapid prototyping
machine...
Is Blender a suitable candidate for that?
AFAIK rapid prototyping machines work with triangle meshes, so using a
polygon modeler is no problem. It's even the way to go for organic
shapes like action figures. There's a RP startup that works with Blender
a lot.
However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is the wrong tool. It
can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent
CAD tool.
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10:17 p.m.
Hiho,
On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:18:39 Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:03 -0400, nescivi wrote:
Hmm.. ok. that sounds interesting.
I don't want to make action figures so much, but part of my interest is
organic shapes...
At first sight it seems more geared to 3D
modelling for animation
graphics, rather than for making realworld objects.
I need to model some things in order to "print" them on a rapid
prototyping machine...
Is Blender a suitable candidate for that?
AFAIK rapid prototyping machines work with triangle meshes, so using a
polygon modeler is no problem. It's even the way to go for organic
shapes like action figures. There's a RP startup that works with Blender
a lot. However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is
the wrong tool. It
can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent
CAD tool.
Do you know any decent open source CAD tools?
I haven't yet found one I am completely content with....
sincerely,
Marije
11:52 p.m.
3D Cad tools unfortuanatly I haven't found any I particularly like among the
open source projects. Personally I am using QCad for 2D and Sketchup for
3D. I use Blender for organic modleing and rendering though.
Seablade
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:17 PM, nescivi <nescivi(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hiho,
On Thursday 07 August 2008 14:18:39 Thorsten Wilms wrote:
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:03 -0400, nescivi
wrote:
Hmm.. ok. that sounds interesting.
I don't want to make action figures so much, but part of my interest is
organic shapes...
At first sight it seems more geared to 3D
modelling for animation
graphics, rather than for making realworld objects.
I need to model some things in order to "print" them on a rapid
prototyping machine...
Is Blender a suitable candidate for that?
AFAIK rapid prototyping machines work with triangle meshes, so using a
polygon modeler is no problem. It's even the way to go for organic
shapes like action figures. There's a RP startup that works with Blender
a lot. However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender
is the wrong tool. It
can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent
CAD tool.
Do you know any decent open source CAD tools?
I haven't yet found one I am completely content with....
sincerely,
Marije
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5:50 a.m.
Den Friday 08 August 2008 03.52.47 skrev Thomas Vecchione:
3D Cad tools unfortuanatly I haven't found any I
particularly like among
the open source projects. Personally I am using QCad for 2D and Sketchup
for 3D. I use Blender for organic modleing and rendering though.
I'm one of those Linux-only persons. Is there a Sketchup for Linux or is it
just Mac and Windows as the Sketchup-page says?
/bengan
8:12 a.m.
On Friday 08 August 2008, Bengt Gördén wrote:
Den Friday 08 August 2008 03.52.47 skrev Thomas
Vecchione:
The newest wine-1.0 can run the windows version of sketchup-6 on nvidia video
cards using the nvidia binary blob drivers. I have not been able to make it
work on my older ATI 9200SE card, the screens workspace isn't drawn, and
generally contains random data stolen from other screens. Apparently it
needs some sort of 3d support that is not in the current radeon driver for
RV280 chipsets.
I ordered an X1650 Pro, but it arrived defective yesterday, my box won't even
post when its plugged in. :(
3D Cad tools unfortuanatly I haven't found
any I particularly like among
the open source projects. Personally I am using QCad for 2D and Sketchup
for 3D. I use Blender for organic modleing and rendering though.
I'm one of those Linux-only persons. Is there a Sketchup for Linux or is it
just Mac and Windows as the Sketchup-page says?
/bengan
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1 p.m.
Sadly no native Linux version yet, but many people do run it in Wine is my
understanding.
Seablade
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:50 AM, Bengt Gördén <bengan(a)bag.org> wrote:
Den Friday 08 August 2008 03.52.47 skrev Thomas
Vecchione:
3D Cad tools unfortuanatly I haven't found
any I particularly like among
the open source projects. Personally I am using QCad for 2D and Sketchup
for 3D. I use Blender for organic modleing and rendering though.
I'm one of those Linux-only persons. Is there a Sketchup for Linux or is it
just Mac and Windows as the Sketchup-page says?
/bengan
5:32 a.m.
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:17 -0400, nescivi wrote:
Do you know any decent open source CAD tools?
I haven't yet found one I am completely content with....
Nope.
There's http://brlcad.org/, which looks like much-is-possible,
but-everything-is-damn-hard.
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5:37 a.m.
2008/8/7 Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de>de>:
However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender is
the wrong tool. It
can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent
CAD tool.
Here's a comunity, that tries to extend Blender for these
requirements. (Some Scripts are available)
http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page
BRL-CAD
http://brlcad.org/
Article:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1633
Some upcoming OS CAD projects:
avoCADo
http://avocado-cad.sourceforge.net/
FreeCAD
http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page
8:37 a.m.
On Friday 08 August 2008, Emanuel Rumpf wrote:
2008/8/7 Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de>de>:
The article is dated, there have been 2 releases since. Unforch for me, the
last release is for IA64 linux only, not x86-32. I already have 7.10, so
downloaded the srcs to see if it will build on x86-32.
However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender
is the wrong tool. It
can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent
CAD tool.
Here's a comunity, that tries to extend Blender for these
requirements. (Some Scripts are available)
http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page
BRL-CAD
http://brlcad.org/
Article:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1633
Some upcoming OS CAD projects:
avoCADo
http://avocado-cad.sourceforge.net/
Interesting, downloaded it.
Big pre-alpha notices on download page.
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soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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Maintence window broken
15 Aug
15 Aug
10:20 a.m.
Hi *,
Am 2008-08-08 09:37:39, schrieb Emanuel Rumpf:
2008/8/7 Thorsten Wilms <t_w_(a)freenet.de>de>:
But unfortunately no even all togehter reach 1% of the performance of my
beloved VariCAD and OF COURSE, no one reach its price... :-D
However, I can design a whole City or such and import my VariCAD stuff
into Blender...
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
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However, for precise geometrical shapes, Blender
is the wrong tool. It
can be done to some degree, but it is just painful compared to a decent
CAD tool.
Here's a comunity, that tries to extend Blender for these
requirements. (Some Scripts are available)
http://blender-archi.tuxfamily.org/Main_Page
BRL-CAD
http://brlcad.org/
Article:
http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1633
Some upcoming OS CAD projects:
avoCADo
http://avocado-cad.sourceforge.net/
FreeCAD
http://juergen-riegel.net/FreeCAD/Docu/index.php?title=Main_Page
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