On 10/08/2018 11:16 PM, Dale Powell wrote:

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> *From:* Linux-audio-user <linux-audio-user-bounces@lists.linuxaudio.org>
> on behalf of David W. Jones <gnome@hawaii.rr.com>
> *Sent:* 09 October 2018 00:46
> *To:* linux-audio-user@lists.linuxaudio.org
> *Subject:* Re: [LAU] GxPlugins.lv2, Wayland and X (Was: Re:
> Linux-audio-user Digest, Vol 140, Issue 9)
>
>
>     On October 8, 2018 2:27:50 AM HST, Juha Siltala wrote:
>     >
>     > > Hmm, do they work on Ubuntu 18.04's Gnome3-based user interface
>     > > running on top of Wayland (without X)?
>     >
>     > AFAIK any X client will work in a Wayland session just fine, thanks to
>     > XWayland.
>     >
>     > JS
>
>     XFCE won't run on Ubuntu 18.04 unless you set Ubuntu to use X
>     instead of Wayland. And it doesn't run reliably even then.
>
>
> Xorg is the default, not Wayland, so you must have enabled Wayland to be
> using it at all (although it does come with it as shipped so you can do
> so at install I would assume.)
>
> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/26/bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-to-use-xorg-by-default
> <https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/26/bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-to-use-xorg-by-default>
>
> Bionic Beaver 18.04 LTS to use Xorg by default | Ubuntu blog
> <https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/01/26/bionic-beaver-18-04-lts-to-use-xorg-by-default>
> Bionic Beaver, the codename for the next Ubuntu LTS release, is due in
> April 2018 and will ship with both the traditional Xorg graphics stack
> as well as the newer Wayland based stack, but Xorg will be the default.
> blog.ubuntu.com

That's not what happened to me.

> But neither Xubuntu

There doesn't appear to be an XUbuntu release anymore.

Same place it's always been.

The 18.04 release, codenamed Bionic Beaver, is a Long Term Support release and has support for 3 years. To learn more about the release, please refer to the release announcement, which has links to complete release notes as well as highlights of the improvements in the release. If you don’t know ...

xubuntu.org

> nor Ubuntu Studio, the two releases based on XFCE,
> come with Wayland. Not sure why you would be using it on an XFCE system
> at all.... The way things currently stand not sure I'd use it on
> anything but a KDE/Plasma install.

I downloaded the 18.04.1 LTS, installed it over my existing 16.04 LTS
installation. It never prompted me about choosing between Wayland or X.

When I added XFCE4 to it after 18.04.1 was successfully installed, XFCE
either wouldn't start or it would freeze up. It still doesn't get along
with the Gnome3 privacy screen, either.

I found this post:

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-disable-wayland-and-enable-xorg-display-server-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux

Where it states that the default Ubuntu 18.04 BB installation comes with
Wayland enabled, and you need to disable Wayland to use X instead.

I would have been more inclined to believe the official Ubuntu Blog post but if that wasn't your experience how can I argue. I've only installed the Studio and the Xubuntu versions of 18.04 which I'm pretty sure were Xorg...

And here's a post about XFCE transitioning to Wayland:

https://www.reddit.com/r/xfce/comments/73gihm/are_there_any_plans_for_xfce_on_wayland/

Not encouraging.

That's from when 17.10 was coming out with Wayland, and from what I read was a bit of a failure, hence why they're back on Xorg...

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