2013/2/8 david <gnome@hawaii.rr.com>
On 02/06/2013 10:30 PM, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
        One could be a professional with/without skills and/or an hobbyist
        with/without skills, no matter who you are you need apps which
        doesn't
        turn sound engineer or a guitar player or composer into a *nix
        OS student.


    I'm sorry, but if you're a professional, *you know how to use your
    tools*. Would you hire a carpenter who didn't know which end of a
    hammer to use for driving a nail, or hauled out a chainsaw for doing
    some fine veneer work while building a cabinet? What would you think
    of a guitarist who never learned to set up their Fancy Big Stomp Box
    because of all those "technical" things like sustain or reverb, etc?
    "I just want to make sounds! Why do I have to know the difference
    between sustain and reverb? I should be able to get what I want
    without having to do anything!" ;-)

Disagree, good musicians know or not how to use a fuzz box, a
compressor, eq, delay or even learn the workflow of a console.

Because they've set out to learn it. They've learned to use their tools.

On the opposite, the knowledge of these things doesn't turn you in a
good guitarist, and many good ones don't need/use this stuff at all.
Your carpenter is the equivalent of a bad musician... I would never get
in touch with him, but he should learn music first (not an OS).

There's absolutely no relation in being professional musician and the
knowledge of the "standard" linux audio workflow (setup jack, understand
the client/server thing, get rid of pulse, write .asoundrc, MIDI stuff...).

They're part of the tool set. Just like a Windows user might have to learn to do some arcane non-music thing to make it work. A professional learns how to do them. A smart professional learns how to do them in such a way that they don't have to do them again. ;-)

<mildly ironic>...a professional is inside a recording studio or on stage half his life, in the neighbourhood of is amp, guitar on his shoulder, with N pedals at his feet, with N varying from 0 to infinity :-) </mildly ironic>

I believe we are not professionals Dave, we are music lovers and musicians with enough IT skills to love Linux, playing mostly alone or in bands, with ten shows/year (more or less), stucked to this mailing list, occasionally with some music delivered (for free) on the internet, but if we ever have to live 100% with music we would be starved to death :-(

regards
-r