Whenever I use Calf, I usually use the ladspa versions (which don't have guis and don't need gtk2, I think), believe it or not.

If you are on arch, you can install it from here. I think the ladspa plugins tend to be more reliable for me.

Brandon Hale

On 5/8/24 02:49, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
Hi list,

I have heard rumors that Calf plugins could soon be dropped from distributions mainly due to GTK2 dependency (see e.g. issue where already in 2022 the Arch Linux maintainer is warning about this) [1]. Overall last Calf GitHub activity seems to indicate 3 years ago.

I'd say the only plugin I used and still use quite a lot is the 'Vintage Delay' mainly due to its controls [2] and its 'final' result / effect (i.e. what I hear), so essentially I'm considering the creative / expressive aspects of this plugin, not its 'technical' features.

I know technical talks about these plug-ins are particularly 'flammable', but please keep in mind my question is purely posed as 'linux audio user' i.e. some dude trying to use Linux and FOSS to make music - do also keep in mind this is/was (also historically as LADSPA) the most widespread delay plugin around ;-)

BPM (sync or arbitrary) and stereo features (''ping-pong' or stereo mode) including musical ratio (sub) divisions are maybe the most important features for me as well as the straight-forward controls (from a UX / musical wokflow perspective). i.e. I'd like a delay plugin where I don't have to solve BPM to millisecond formulas and calculate left and right delays each time (for that I already have a self-made Pd patch).

Any recommendations for possible substitutes, ideally FOSS, alternatives - even better something I could just put in as a replacement on stereo tracks / busses where this plug-in exists in my projects?

Or if it doesn't exist any friends from LAD willing to make one (I'd be willing to help with requirements and testing etc.)?

I have a proof of concept of a simpler 'stereo delay' (without the musical times) made in Pd which mimics this but I'd prefer a LV2 (or similar) plugin. Also with the 'echo' plugin in recent Yoshimi versions which can sync to BPM and allows independent left-right delay controls I have obtained similar creative results (albeit only for yoshimi sounds, of course).

Lorenzo

[1] https://github.com/calf-studio-gear/calf/issues/248

[2] https://calf-studio-gear.org/doc/Vintage%20Delay.html
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