22 Apr
2009
22 Apr
'09
11 a.m.
Hi,
My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
possible to improve the sound and how?
Which apps and which plugins?
If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
Here is the first part:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s4ubmc
\r
22 Apr
22 Apr
7:04 p.m.
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
Hi,
My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
possible to improve the sound and how?
Which apps and which plugins?
If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
Here is the first part:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s4ubmc
\r
I certainly can't claim be experienced or any kind of expert, but I like
this kind of problem!
To my ears the room colouration has made the recording sound a bit
"boxy". Try using jamin to gently cut some of the mid-range 600hz-1200Hz
approx.
here's a quick shot: http://www.garryo.org/export/15566.0.track13.EQ01.flac
Does that sound any better to you? ( yeah its louder )
you could borrow a cd of the same piece ( local library, do they do that
in NL? ) and use that as a reference.
best wishes,
~G.
23 Apr
23 Apr
6:35 a.m.
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:04:19PM +0100, garry Ogle wrote:
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
>
> My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
> let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
>
> The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
> possible to improve the sound and how?
>
> Which apps and which plugins?
>
> If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
I certainly can't claim be experienced or any kind
of expert, but I like
this kind of problem!
To my ears the room colouration has made the recording sound a bit
"boxy". Try using jamin to gently cut some of the mid-range 600hz-1200Hz
approx.
It sounds like it was recorded in a very reverberant space,
possibly a church or large chapel. With orchestra and choir
you'd want the mic to go something like 3-4 m high, which is
sort of impractical with a Zoom.
Some EQ will improve it, you need to
- attenuate the LF, either a shelf filter
or a parameteric with F = 30 Hz, BW = 4,
and gain of around -4 dB
- attenuate the mid range around 900 Hz,
using a parametric set to that frequency,
BW = 1.3, gain -6 dB.
- boost th HF, using a parametric with
F = 10 kHz, BW = 3, gain = +5 dB.
(BW are expressed as relative, as e.g. for
my 4-band EQ plugin).
That's all you can do to it, the mic was in the
wrong place and you can't correct that afterwards.
CIao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
12:16 p.m.
Fons Adriaensen wrote:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:04:19PM +0100, garry Ogle
wrote:
Thanks guys! I'll check the different suggestions, really appreciate it!
@ Fons, You mean you enable filter, section 1 (LF), section 2 (mid
range) and section 4 (HF) in the 4-band EQ plugin?
\r
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
> My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
> let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
>
> The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
> possible to improve the sound and how?
>
> Which apps and which plugins?
>
> If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
>
I certainly can't claim be experienced or any
kind of expert, but I like
this kind of problem!
To my ears the room colouration has made the recording sound a bit
"boxy". Try using jamin to gently cut some of the mid-range 600hz-1200Hz
approx.
It sounds like it was recorded in a very reverberant space,
possibly a church or large chapel. With orchestra and choir
you'd want the mic to go something like 3-4 m high, which is
sort of impractical with a Zoom.
Some EQ will improve it, you need to
- attenuate the LF, either a shelf filter
or a parameteric with F = 30 Hz, BW = 4,
and gain of around -4 dB
- attenuate the mid range around 900 Hz,
using a parametric set to that frequency,
BW = 1.3, gain -6 dB.
- boost th HF, using a parametric with
F = 10 kHz, BW = 3, gain = +5 dB.
(BW are expressed as relative, as e.g. for
my 4-band EQ plugin).
That's all you can do to it, the mic was in the
wrong place and you can't correct that afterwards.
6:19 p.m.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 04:10:52PM +0200, Grammostola Rosea wrote:
@ Fons, You mean you enable filter, section 1 (LF),
section 2 (mid
range) and section 4 (HF) in the 4-band EQ plugin?
Yes, that's what I used. But as long as the frequencies
are in range you could use any combination of sections,
they are identical except for the F range.
The numbers I gave are just a initial setting,
experiment with them until you get the best
results.
Ciao,
--
FA
Io lo dico sempre: l'Italia è troppo stretta e lunga.
22 Apr
22 Apr
9:29 p.m.
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Grammostola Rosea a écrit :
Hi,
My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
possible to improve the sound and how?
Which apps and which plugins?
If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
Here is the first part:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s4ubmc
\r
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I'm sorry to say that but I have to ...
In the first place it should have been recorded in a non destructive
format. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case. I hear a lot of
artifacts that seem to come from an mp3 compression.
Sadly, these artifacts will come up as soon as you try to "improve" the
sound.
I wouldn't do anything to it because it would be worse than it already is.
Regards,
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Raphaël Doursenaud
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9:47 p.m.
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 01:29 +0200, Raphaël Doursenaud wrote:
I'm seeing a WAV file, was it converted from an MP3 to a WAV or
something?
I do some mastering, so I'll give it a listen once it's done
downloading.
Ricus...
Hi,
My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
possible to improve the sound and how?
Which apps and which plugins?
If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
Here is the first part:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s4ubmc
\r
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I'm sorry to say that but I have to ...
In the first place it should have been recorded in a non destructive
format. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case. I hear a lot of
artifacts that seem to come from an mp3 compression.
Sadly, these artifacts will come up as soon as you try to "improve" the
sound.
I wouldn't do anything to it because it would be worse than it already is.
Regards,
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Raphaël Doursenaud
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10:15 p.m.
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 01:29 +0200, Raphaël Doursenaud wrote:
I just listened on my MINI 9 with earbuds, and I don't think the thing
sounds bad at all. We're hearing a lot of room because you didn't
close-mic the orchestra.
The performance sounds good, too. After what someone else said, I was
expecting it to sound horrible, but I think it's fine. I would need to
get it up on some monitors that I trust to know for sure, but it might
not need any sweetening at all.
I have an H4, and for the money am very happy with the quality.
Ricus...
Hi,
My sister did an great project with here school as a music teacher. See
let her students perform an classical concert. They played Haydn.
The recording is done with an zoom H2 I think. I was wondering if its
possible to improve the sound and how?
Which apps and which plugins?
If an experienced mixer would take look at it, would be great.
Here is the first part:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/s4ubmc
\r
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I'm sorry to say that but I have to ...
In the first place it should have been recorded in a non destructive
format. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case. I hear a lot of
artifacts that seem to come from an mp3 compression.
Sadly, these artifacts will come up as soon as you try to "improve" the
sound.
I wouldn't do anything to it because it would be worse than it already is.
Regards,
- --
Raphaël Doursenaud
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23 Apr
23 Apr
3:27 a.m.
Den Thursday 23 April 2009 01.29.38 skrev Raphaël Doursenaud:
I'm sorry to say that but I have to ...
In the first place it should have been recorded in a non destructive
format. Unfortunately this hasn't been the case. I hear a lot of
artifacts that seem to come from an mp3 compression.
Sadly, these artifacts will come up as soon as you try to "improve" the
sound.
I wouldn't do anything to it because it would be worse than it already is.
At first I didn't here the artifacts but doing a spectrum analyze of the wav
file the cut of frequency is definitely around 16kHz and that is what the
Zoom H2 does when it is set to record and save in mp3 format.
/bengan
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Fons Adriaensen -
garry Ogle -
Grammostola Rosea -
Raphaël Doursenaud -
Ricus Vincente