2 Feb
2005
2 Feb
'05
10:47 a.m.
Greetings.
I have just set up my first partition table.
When you specify the mount point for each partition you can use your own title or
one of those in the menu. I can't remember all of them, but they had names like /
var, /tmp etc etc.
Where can I find information about which of these I need to create partitions for and
what they're supposed to be used for.
Currently I have (ext3):
/
swap
/home
/audio
I guess when I'm installing software an arbitrarily structured partition table is
likely to
result in chaos something I'm naturally quite keen to avoid.
Many thanks in advance,
Tom
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2 Feb
2 Feb
11:43 a.m.
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 16:47 +0100, Tom Charles-Edwards wrote:
Greetings.
I have just set up my first partition table.
When you specify the mount point for each partition you can use your own title or
one of those in the menu. I can't remember all of them, but they had names like /
var, /tmp etc etc.
Where can I find information about which of these I need to create partitions for and
what they're supposed to be used for.
Currently I have (ext3):
/
swap
/home
/audio
You don't need to create partitions for them. With the above config
they will live on the root partition. This is probably what you want.
I guess when I'm installing software an
arbitrarily structured partition table is likely to
result in chaos – something I'm naturally quite keen to avoid.
Not nearly as bad as a "clever" sysadmin overdoing it. I have seen high
end SCSI disks die in a week because some wisenheimer decided to put
"/home" at the very beginning of the disk and "/var" at the very end,
then configured some daemon to log to its home directory. Or made /
just big enough to hold the files from a BSD/OS 3.0 install, only to
find it's not quite big enough for the 4.2 files and, oh, say, the
password file at the same time.
Short answer: go with the defaults the installer chooses for you. It's
almost definitely smarter than you are in this area.
Lee
2:48 p.m.
I tend to dislike partitioning into a bunch of small pieces like Red Hat
defaults to. The reason being that you will eventually run out of space
in /tmp or /home or /usr or wherever you don't think you're going to run
out of space (see Murphy's law). For our systems at work (and my home
systems) I usually partition the main drive as follows:
/boot 100MB
/ 10000MB (I load everything on the distribution which leaves me
about 4 GB of slop space for /tmp and a growing /usr)
swap 2-4 GB depending on system memory
The rest goes on another partition that you can call whatever you want
(you can use /home if it makes you feel better ;-)
Jan
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 09:47, Tom Charles-Edwards wrote:
Greetings.
I have just set up my first partition table.
When you specify the mount point for each partition you can use your own title or
one of those in the menu. I can't remember all of them, but they had names like /
var, /tmp etc etc.
Where can I find information about which of these I need to create partitions for and
what they're supposed to be used for.
Currently I have (ext3):
/
swap
/home
/audio
I guess when I'm installing software an arbitrarily structured partition table is
likely to
result in chaos something I'm naturally quite keen to avoid.
Many thanks in advance,
Tom
3 Feb
3 Feb
1:06 a.m.
On 2005-02-02T14:27:06-0600, Jan Depner wrote:
I tend to dislike partitioning into a bunch of small
pieces like Red Hat
defaults to. The reason being that you will eventually run out of space
in /tmp or /home or /usr or wherever you don't think you're going to run
out of space (see Murphy's law).
Check out LVM or EVM.
For our systems at work (and my home
systems) I usually partition the main drive as follows:
/boot 100MB
/ 10000MB (I load everything on the distribution which leaves me
about 4 GB of slop space for /tmp and a growing /usr)
swap 2-4 GB depending on system memory
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/partition-4.html#number
is very well written. Get rid of /boot, separate / and /var,
/tmp goes on tmpfs in linux 2.6. swap is max memory you will
use. Is 2 * physical memory still sound advice?
/Allan
1:53 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 00:06, Allan Wind wrote:
It should be.
Jan
On 2005-02-02T14:27:06-0600, Jan Depner wrote:
LVM can be bad news. I was using a logical volume manager under
HP-UX in the olden days and it can be a bitch to recover from errors.
Maybe things have changed recently though.
I tend to dislike partitioning into a bunch of
small pieces like Red Hat
defaults to. The reason being that you will eventually run out of space
in /tmp or /home or /usr or wherever you don't think you're going to run
out of space (see Murphy's law).
Check out LVM or EVM.
For our
systems at work (and my home
systems) I usually partition the main drive as follows:
/boot 100MB
/ 10000MB (I load everything on the distribution which leaves me
about 4 GB of slop space for /tmp and a growing /usr)
swap 2-4 GB depending on system memory
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/partition-4.html#number
is very well written. Get rid of /boot, separate / and /var,
/tmp goes on tmpfs in linux 2.6. swap is max memory you will
use. Is 2 * physical memory still sound advice?
3:05 p.m.
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0600
Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> wrote:
LVM can be bad news. I was using a logical volume
manager under
HP-UX in the olden days and it can be a bitch to recover from errors.
Maybe things have changed recently though.
I use LVM under HP-UX every day, and knock wood-grained formica, it's
never given me a problem I couldn't deal with.
I was very impressed to find that the lvm stuff under HP-UX was
contributed to Linux; very, very nice to use the same toolset across
platforms.
FWIW, I still make swap 2x the amount of RAM, even though it's often
not necessary. Some habits die hard... like typing "sync" 3 times
before giving the shutdown command!
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4:37 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 14:05, Joe Hartley wrote:
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0600
Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> wrote:
Fortunately, my office dumped all of our Linux, AIX, CLIX, Ultrix,
and most IRIX boxes and replaced them all with Linux PCs. Either RH ES,
Fedora Core 3, or Slackware. Pretty bizarre for DoD ;-)
LVM can be bad news. I was using a logical
volume manager under
HP-UX in the olden days and it can be a bitch to recover from errors.
Maybe things have changed recently though.
I use LVM under HP-UX every day, and knock wood-grained formica, it's
never given me a problem I couldn't deal with.
I was very impressed to find that the lvm stuff under
HP-UX was
contributed to Linux; very, very nice to use the same toolset across
platforms.
FWIW, I still make swap 2x the amount of RAM, even though it's often
not necessary. Some habits die hard... like typing "sync" 3 times
before giving the shutdown command!
LOL! Yeah, me too.
Jan
4 Feb
4 Feb
2:13 p.m.
Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> writes:
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 14:05, Joe Hartley wrote:
I've always been a 3-sync man, myself.
Never was one of those wild and crazy 2-sync people. :-)
--
joq
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0600
FWIW, I still make swap 2x the amount of RAM, even though it's often
not necessary. Some habits die hard... like typing "sync" 3 times
before giving the shutdown command!
LOL! Yeah, me too. 
2:17 p.m.
Jack O'Quin wrote:
Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> writes:
Just goes to show what a newb I am...
.. ( I have 4 lux servers here and NEVER run sync...) man maybe I'll
start..
3X too ;)
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 14:05, Joe Hartley wrote:
I've always been a 3-sync man, myself.
Never was one of those wild and crazy 2-sync people. :-)
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0600
FWIW, I still make swap 2x the amount of RAM, even though it's often
not necessary. Some habits die hard... like typing "sync" 3 times
before giving the shutdown command!
LOL! Yeah, me too.
4:33 p.m.
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 13:15:40 -0600
"Jack O'Quin" <joq(a)io.com> wrote:
Jan Depner <eviltwin69(a)cableone.net> writes:
That's because you needed the third to make sure the buffers were really
flushed to disk!!!
I still think that SunOS 4.1.3 was the peak of Sun's OS journey.
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Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 14:05, Joe Hartley wrote:
I've always been a 3-sync man, myself.
Never was one of those wild and crazy 2-sync people. :-) On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:32:26 -0600
FWIW, I still make swap 2x the amount of RAM, even though it's often
not necessary. Some habits die hard... like typing "sync" 3 times
before giving the shutdown command!
LOL! Yeah, me too.
3 Feb
3 Feb
12:50 p.m.
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 14:27 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
I tend to dislike partitioning into a bunch of small
pieces like Red Hat
defaults to. The reason being that you will eventually run out of space
in /tmp or /home or /usr or wherever you don't think you're going to run
out of space (see Murphy's law). For our systems at work (and my home
systems) I usually partition the main drive as follows:
Since around RH9 or FC1, Red Hat does not do this anymore. By default
you get one huge root partition. Really, partitioning up a single disk
for /home and /var and /usr stopped making sense when disks got really
huge a few years ago.
Lee
2:01 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 11:50, Lee Revell wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 14:27 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
Cool. I didn't know since I quit taking their partition advice when
they started doing it like SunOS (before Solaris) used to do it.
Jan
I tend to dislike partitioning into a bunch of
small pieces like Red Hat
defaults to. The reason being that you will eventually run out of space
in /tmp or /home or /usr or wherever you don't think you're going to run
out of space (see Murphy's law). For our systems at work (and my home
systems) I usually partition the main drive as follows:
Since around RH9 or FC1, Red Hat does not do this anymore. By default
you get one huge root partition. Really, partitioning up a single disk
for /home and /var and /usr stopped making sense when disks got really
huge a few years ago.
2:27 p.m.
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 13:39 -0600, Jan Depner wrote:
On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 11:50, Lee Revell wrote:
Well it makes sense in the days where you had a busy server with a 9GB
disk, where a partition filling up before anyone notices it is a real
possibility. With hundreds of gigs of disk on an entry level server
these days, it would take real sysadmin incompetence for that to happen.
Lee
On Wed, 2005-02-02 at 14:27 -0600, Jan Depner
wrote:
Cool. I didn't know since I quit taking their partition advice when
they started doing it like SunOS (before Solaris) used to do it.
I tend to dislike partitioning into a bunch of
small pieces like Red Hat
defaults to. The reason being that you will eventually run out of space
in /tmp or /home or /usr or wherever you don't think you're going to run
out of space (see Murphy's law). For our systems at work (and my home
systems) I usually partition the main drive as follows:
Since around RH9 or FC1, Red Hat does not do this anymore. By default
you get one huge root partition. Really, partitioning up a single disk
for /home and /var and /usr stopped making sense when disks got really
huge a few years ago.
3:04 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Want to migrate 2 adat sessions to ardour..
I have 2 complete 16 track adat sessions that have never been mixed..
I want to dump these into either OMF format or ardour..
does anyone offer this service ?
how much do you think it'll cost?
I also have a 16 track da88 session I would like to do this to as well...
( do any of you fellow LUX users do it)
;)
7:37 p.m.
New subject: [linux-audio-user] Want to migrate 2 adat sessions to ardour..
Hi Timothy,
I've got an ADAT studio and am a professional audio
engineer. My partners and I have been running our
studio for 20 years. I might have access to a DA88
through another friend. If that's what he has he'll be
more than happy to help us.
Send a letter directly to me and we'll figure out what
you need and I'll quote you a price. It might take a
couple days for me to respond.
Ron Parker
Mirror Image Studios (www.multitrack.us)
2428 Dupont Ave. S.
Minneapolis, MN 55045
--- Timothy Alan Gorman <timg(a)expressmart.com> wrote:
I have 2 complete 16 track adat sessions that have
never been mixed..
I want to dump these into either OMF format or
ardour..
does anyone offer this service ?
how much do you think it'll cost?
I also have a 16 track da88 session I would like to
do this to as well...
( do any of you fellow LUX users do it)
;)
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