On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:29:41 +0100, Anahata wrote: Me too. I have an old consumer md reorder with broken analogue i/o in the studio. I have seen frames that you plug a consumer md recorder into that provide phantom power, AD conversion and such and connect to the recorder over spdif. I guess they were cheaper than a reporters md unit and smaller. - Steve

On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:26:25PM +0200, Wilbert Berendsen wrote: Yes... No: your own recordings will be set for "copy once". You can copy it digitally to another MD (using the deck S/PDIF out to the portable S/PDIF in, for example), but a second generation copy from that would be prohibited. Either MD would would work into your Terratec card though; I'm fairly certain that all computer sound cards ignore the SCMS bits. SCMS is pretty pointless, really. Nowadays anyone can cheaply load audio onto a PC and burn CD's, and anyone who was seriously into mass copyright infringement for profit could always spend a few more $CURRENCY on pro gear and forget about SCMS. -- Anahata anahata(a)treewind.co.uk Tel: 01638 720444 http://www.treewind.co.uk Mob: 07976 263827

On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:47:19AM -0400, Rob wrote: Even so, the first generation recording (from Mic to MD) is set for 1 copy and should be recordable to a sound card - or are you saying that didn't work either? Geven that we're in a Linux context here, surely SCMS would be ideologically anathema to a typical open-source driver developer and they wouldn't implement it? -- Anahata anahata(a)treewind.co.uk Tel: 01638 720444 http://www.treewind.co.uk Mob: 07976 263827

On Wednesday 14 May 2003 14:00, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Just FYI: I've received an assignment from Linux Journal to review this item, I'm really looking forward to testing it ! Best regards, == Dave Phillips The Book Of Linux Music & Sound at http://www.nostarch.com/lms.htm The Linux Soundapps Site at http://linux-sound.org

Patrick, Thanks for mentioning PDAudio -- much appreciated! Len

Yes, it should work with the Zaurus, but since the Zaurus only has one CF slot (for the PDAudio-CF) and one SD slot (and SD memory is considerably slower than CF memory or hard drives), the maximum sample rates and word widths will be limited. Len Moskowitz Core Sound ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Redfern" <bredfern(a)calarts.edu> To: <linux-audio-user(a)music.columbia.edu> Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [linux-audio-user] (semi)professional "field" recording work, what to use?

is there any reason to avoid a portable DAT recorder? i've used a portable MD for years now for field recording, but got really sick of the crappy built-in mike preamps, especially in the Sony MDs. also, it didn't have a digital out [no portable MD seems to], so the choice was to invest in a [used] MD deck with digital outs or upgrade my portable hardware. i was lucky enough to find a used sony TCD-D7 dat walkman for EUR 100. you might not be THAT lucky, but a used D7 or a D8 usually go for 250-500 EUR. [i also live in Holland, so i looked on Ebay.de for a while before finding mine in the ViaVia newspaper] i think they are about 700-800 new... you can then use the optical out to transfer your recordings to the desktop. and a DAT walkman is much nicer to carry around then a whole laptop with a breakout box, and the batteries last longer too :-) of course, there are DAT cons: only two audio channels [vs multichannel soundcards like HDSP], not instantly transferrable [neither is MD when going out of the deck to the computer], walkman models have only minijack mike inputs [unless you go for the super pro Tascam portables], the usual caveats about DAT tapes needing to be "prepped" before recording, needing to tune-up the mechanism/heads from time to time... re: MP3 recorder.. last week i cleaned up some recordings a friend made of Gnawa musicians in Morocco on his MP3 recorder. after seeing the spectrographic display of these recordings, i'm not sure i want to encode something to MP3 ever again, much less make my raw recordings on it. almost everything in upper ranges is gone! further down, you can see where the engineers thought the "usable" frequencies were. they were most likely thinking of music when they did this, cause all the bands seem to be quite logarithmically related. not so nice for "noisy" and inharmonic field recordings at all. [i'll have to make a note to check the spectroscope of an MD recording for comparison's sake...] i like the idea of these new Core-Sound palmtop recorders a lot, except that with the required-but-not-included external AD converter attached, they don't stay so light and cheap as you might imagine. on top of that, using flash media to record on isn't the most cost-effective way of doing things. when i go out to record in the field, i want at least 2 hours of media with me. that's almost a gig and a half of stereo data, and that's easily 500 EUR worth of flash media cards.... gets pricey! i guess you could justify it in the long run by analzying how many MDs or DAT tapes you would eventually buy. but at least with an MD or DAT tape, you always have the original as a backup somewhere. good luck! derek

len, thanks for the correction! i wasn't aware it was so cheap. it might be nice to see some of this kind of info on the Core Sound page, so that people could get an idea of exactly what it costs to set themselves up with one of your units. something like a comparative price chart, listing different compatible palmtops, AD converters and memory alongside your soundcard, so that folks like me don't assume there are too many "hidden costs" and go out and buy a used DAT instead :-) best, derek [who still likes his dat walkman, btw...] Len Moskowitz wrote:

On Wed 14/05/2003 20:37:57, Len Moskowitz wrote: What do you mean by a "digital wallet"? sounds interesting...

Ahh. very cool. I imagined it would be something like that, but hadn't seen such a thing before. thanks. :) On Thu 15/05/2003 12:00:10, Len Moskowitz wrote: