28 Jan
2007
28 Jan
'07
3:46 p.m.
Hi all!
I still have one problem: I don't have any acoustic drums I REALLY, TRULY
love. I have one hardware synth with drums, which are ok in the mix )sometimes
at least) and I have both the naturalstudio kits version 6 and version 7 as a
soundfont. But they don't really satisfy me neither. They both sound a bit odd
in the mix, they don't really fit in the room. The version6 is good and hard,
but has a very short release on the snaredrums and I disagree with the
bassdrum a bit and the version7 has good release, but sound a bit to soft.
Even with some compression and other FX-processing I can't get them to sound
really crunchy.
So you see my being choosy and what I generally disagree with. I'm looking
for a drumkit in eitehr sf2 or .gig format, which sounds very raw (no
ambiance, no or very subtle FX-processing), not too soft in its attack, has
good velocity layering and nice basic sampled instruments. If possible it
would be nice if it had a few more cymbals (I like them :-)).
Does anyone have experience with sampled drumkits, finding them, any good
locations to start looking... Any kit on mind, which you think is very good
for rock, jazz, a bit of metal or the like. Please give me a hint. For I found
nothing except the hardware eDrums, which are very expensive, demand, that you
can play real drums and demand a lot of real room to put them. All of that, I
don't have. :-)
Kindest regards
Julien
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28 Jan
28 Jan
4:14 p.m.
If you look at http://naturalstudio.co.uk/ns_kit7specs.html
you'll see there
Kick drums:
- Gretsch USA Maple kicks - 22", 20" (a multitude of tunings, from
open and ringy to punchy and fast).
- Sonor 16".
- Gretsch USA Maple 14" tom played as a kick!
So I think you should consider buying full (real) nskit. It's no very expensive.
Lucky you know exactly what you want :), and I think they (hmm, him?)
will reply all your questions regarding sound.
I'm not using it (yet), but plan to buy it when/if I will need
acoustic drums. Though, I just do not know any other acoustic drum
samples set :).
Regards,
Dmitry.
29 Jan
29 Jan
7:08 a.m.
Hi Dmitry, hi Key!
To Ken: I couldn't read your message in my pine, it just told me output from
pgp and that was almost all.
Dmitry: I know, that the naturalstudio guys have a lot of good sounds, but I
can't really use them. You should know I'm blind and can thus only use
text-based software. That is fluidsynth and LinuxSampler. But they offer it as
simple .wav-files and give a Kontakt-configuration, I believe. But that's
nothing I can work with. I can't create my own soundfonts, at least not in
that quality, and I don't have a software, that let's me use simple .wav-files
as a sample-base. That's the dificulty.
Thanks anyway, they are great!
Kindest regards
Julien
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7:44 a.m.
Julien Claassen a écrit :
and I don't have a software, that let's me use
simple .wav-files
as a sample-base. That's the dificulty.
Hi Julien
If you don't mind waiting maybe one week, i'm working on a a sampler
called Tapeutape with the ability to load wav,flac (and everything
handled by libsndfile) and to make kits and instruments. There will be a
gui and a text-based versions. It's almost finished, I use it myself
right now, and it works pretty well here :
http://hitmuri.com/compressed.ogg (example using a midi-drumkit,
Tapeutape, Freewheeling and jack-rack)
I'll make an announce soon for the release of Tapeutape and for the
release of a live beat repeat|redirect tool for jack called Tranches.
Flo
11:58 a.m.
Hi Flo!
Is your sampler capable of velocity-layering? It sounds great. I'll have a
look at it.
Kindest regards
Julien
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======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
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======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
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12:44 p.m.
Hi Julien,
The old version of Drumkit from Hell, in gigasampler format, is rather
good for heavier stuff, well layered drums and lots of cymbals. I've
used in some songs, I forget which. Not that my songs are a good
reference, I'm lousy at programming drums ;-)
One problems is however that it is no longer available for purchase...
Regards,
Robert
Julien Claassen skrev:
Hi Dmitry, hi Key!
To Ken: I couldn't read your message in my pine, it just told me output from
pgp and that was almost all.
Dmitry: I know, that the naturalstudio guys have a lot of good sounds, but I
can't really use them. You should know I'm blind and can thus only use
text-based software. That is fluidsynth and LinuxSampler. But they offer it as
simple .wav-files and give a Kontakt-configuration, I believe. But that's
nothing I can work with. I can't create my own soundfonts, at least not in
that quality, and I don't have a software, that let's me use simple .wav-files
as a sample-base. That's the dificulty.
Thanks anyway, they are great!
Kindest regards
Julien
--------
Music was my first love and it will be my last (John Miles)
======== FIND MY WEB-PROJECT AT: ========
http://ltsb.sourceforge.net
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======= AND MY PERSONAL PAGES AT: =======
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1:06 a.m.
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On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:27:53PM +0100, Julien Claassen wrote:
Hi all!
I still have one problem: I don't have any acoustic drums I REALLY, TRULY
love. I have one hardware synth with drums, which are ok in the mix )sometimes
at least) and I have both the naturalstudio kits version 6 and version 7 as a
soundfont. But they don't really satisfy me neither. They both sound a bit odd
in the mix, they don't really fit in the room. The version6 is good and hard,
but has a very short release on the snaredrums and I disagree with the
bassdrum a bit and the version7 has good release, but sound a bit to soft.
Even with some compression and other FX-processing I can't get them to sound
really crunchy.
So you see my being choosy and what I generally disagree with. I'm looking
for a drumkit in eitehr sf2 or .gig format, which sounds very raw (no
ambiance, no or very subtle FX-processing), not too soft in its attack, has
good velocity layering and nice basic sampled instruments. If possible it
would be nice if it had a few more cymbals (I like them :-)).
Does anyone have experience with sampled drumkits, finding them, any good
locations to start looking... Any kit on mind, which you think is very good
for rock, jazz, a bit of metal or the like. Please give me a hint. For I found
nothing except the hardware eDrums, which are very expensive, demand, that you
can play real drums and demand a lot of real room to put them. All of that, I
don't have. :-)
Kindest regards
Julien
I like the Vintage Yamaha kit in Hydrogen. A lot. It sounds to me like Dave Weckl.
- -ken
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4:41 p.m.
On 1/28/07, Julien Claassen <julien(a)c-lab.de> wrote:
Hi all!
I still have one problem: I don't have any acoustic drums I REALLY, TRULY
love. I have one hardware synth with drums, which are ok in the mix )sometimes
at least) and I have both the naturalstudio kits version 6 and version 7 as a
soundfont. But they don't really satisfy me neither. They both sound a bit odd
in the mix, they don't really fit in the room. The version6 is good and hard,
but has a very short release on the snaredrums and I disagree with the
bassdrum a bit and the version7 has good release, but sound a bit to soft.
Even with some compression and other FX-processing I can't get them to sound
really crunchy.
So you see my being choosy and what I generally disagree with. I'm looking
for a drumkit in eitehr sf2 or .gig format, which sounds very raw (no
ambiance, no or very subtle FX-processing), not too soft in its attack, has
good velocity layering and nice basic sampled instruments. If possible it
would be nice if it had a few more cymbals (I like them :-)).
Does anyone have experience with sampled drumkits, finding them, any good
locations to start looking... Any kit on mind, which you think is very good
for rock, jazz, a bit of metal or the like. Please give me a hint. For I found
nothing except the hardware eDrums, which are very expensive, demand, that you
can play real drums and demand a lot of real room to put them. All of that, I
don't have. :-)
Kindest regards
Julien
You may want to check out the Blue Jay Drums series from SONiVOX. I
have found them to be really good quality. They come in Gig format,
and they're about $30 US each. They work great with LinuxSampler.
http://www.sonivoxmi.com/ProductList.asp?lstSort=Synth&lstSynthSearch=G…
-TimH
1 Feb
1 Feb
6:21 p.m.
Hi all!
Hello
I still have one problem: I don't have any
acoustic drums I REALLY, TRULY
love. I have one hardware synth with drums, which are ok in the mix )sometimes
My problem exactly for a long long time, until now. I finally have a
decent drum sounds that keep me going on.
Here is a sample, made with my loyal companions ZynAddSubFx, Hydrogen and
Rosegarden, recorded with Ardour.
http://users.tkk.fi/tuimonen/drumsample.ogg
It starts with melodic stuff, the drums are introduced somewhat later and
then it gets ugly at the end. Unfinished and unmixed version.
Drums are mainly from freesound (691_ianhall_Ian_s_Drum_Set,
889_ltibbits_High_Quality_Cymbals,17_TicTacShutUp_Studio_Drums_1) and
ns_kit7free.
Bassdrum is basicly ripped from one mp3 that starts with snare and
bassdrum "riff" and mixed with one of my own recorded bassdrum. I know the
band/guy who is responsible for the sounds, so after they release their
CD, I'm going to ask permission for that bd sound (at least for my
personal usage). I use two slightly different bd samples to get more
natural feeling, at least for double hits that play very close to each
other.
Three toms is from ns_kit7free (tom_flr,tom_mid,tom_hi) and one is from
13249_ianhall_rack_tom.aiff
http://users.tkk.fi/tuimonen/drumkit.xml.bz2
Here is drumkit.xml that I used in Hydrogen. I cannot redistribute the
actual samples, but you are free to download them from freesound (and
ns_kit7free from http://www.naturalstudio.co.uk/ns_kit7freedownload.html)
and save the samples to ./hydrogen/data/TU_2/ along with the
drumkit.xml and you are set to go..well almost, since Hydrogen is not text
based so it's not usable to you. But someone could cook up a script that
reads drumkit.xml and produces nice soundfont or .gig file out of it.
I'm warning though, that I get Hydrogen 0.9.3 to crash when one song using
this drumkit is loaded and I open another that uses the same drumkit. So
better just quit in between songs. And I disabled the 'Restore last used
song' because the drumkit loads quite a while.
good velocity layering and nice basic sampled
instruments. If possible it
would be nice if it had a few more cymbals (I like them :-)).
Check out 889_ltibbits_High_Quality_Cymbals from freesound (Creative
Commons Sampling Plus 1.0 License)
Freesound is quite nice place; After you find some user that has uploaded
good stuff, just see the user's profile and check out what samples he/she
has downloaded. This is how I found those three drum sets.
Happy drumming!
Tommi
3 Feb
3 Feb
5:30 p.m.
On Thursday 01 February 2007 23:19, Tommi Sakari Uimonen wrote:
Hi Tommi. Nice sounds. As you say, the last bit gets a bit heavy. Be nice to
hear the finished version.
All the best.
Nigel.
Hi all!
Hello
I still have one problem: I don't have any
acoustic drums I REALLY,
TRULY love. I have one hardware synth with drums, which are ok in the mix
)sometimes
My problem exactly for a long long time, until now. I finally have a
decent drum sounds that keep me going on.
Here is a sample, made with my loyal companions ZynAddSubFx, Hydrogen and
Rosegarden, recorded with Ardour.
http://users.tkk.fi/tuimonen/drumsample.ogg
It starts with melodic stuff, the drums are introduced somewhat later and
then it gets ugly at the end. Unfinished and unmixed version. 
4 Feb
4 Feb
10:08 a.m.
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 22:30:01 +0100
Nigel Henry <cave.dnb(a)tiscali.fr> wrote:
On Thursday 01 February 2007 23:19, Tommi Sakari
Uimonen wrote:
Hi Tommi. Nice sounds. As you say, the last bit gets a bit heavy. Be nice to
hear the finished version.
All the best.
Nigel.
Ditto!
I'd like to hear the finished result too.
--
Will J G
Hi all!
Hello
I still have one problem: I don't have any
acoustic drums I REALLY,
TRULY love. I have one hardware synth with drums, which are ok in the mix
)sometimes
My problem exactly for a long long time, until now. I finally have a
decent drum sounds that keep me going on.
Here is a sample, made with my loyal companions ZynAddSubFx, Hydrogen and
Rosegarden, recorded with Ardour.
http://users.tkk.fi/tuimonen/drumsample.ogg
It starts with melodic stuff, the drums are introduced somewhat later and
then it gets ugly at the end. Unfinished and unmixed version.
7:54 p.m.
Hi Tommi. Nice
sounds. As you say, the last bit gets a bit heavy. Be nice to
hear the finished version.
All the best.
Nigel.
Ditto!
I'd like to hear the finished result too. 
11:31 p.m.
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 01:53 +0200, Tommi Sakari Uimonen wrote:
Although I have a demoscene background and still like
to do instrumental
'computer only'-music.
Tommi
tommi, what was your handle/group?
--
Leonard Ritter
-- Freelance Art & Logic
-- http://www.leonard-ritter.com
11:32 p.m.
On Mon, 2007-02-05 at 01:53 +0200, Tommi Sakari Uimonen wrote:
Although I have a demoscene background and still like
to do instrumental
'computer only'-music.
ah. pouet tells me you're nobody^wildlight ... looks like you guys did
demos in the dos-days :)
--
Leonard Ritter
-- Freelance Art & Logic
-- http://www.leonard-ritter.com
5 Feb
5 Feb
11:38 a.m.
Although I
have a demoscene background and still like to do instrumental
'computer only'-music.
ah. pouet tells me you're nobody^wildlight ... looks like you guys did
demos in the dos-days :)
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