18 May
2011
18 May
'11
4:44 a.m.
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal eliminator tool for linux? i.e. for karaoke
applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along with dance-pop tracks than
in creating her own.
Thanks.
-ken
18 May
18 May
5:34 a.m.
On 17 May 2011 at 21:44, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal
eliminator tool
for linux? i.e. for karaoke applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along
with dance-pop tracks than in creating her own.
Ken, doesn't LEFT-RIGHT normally take out the vocal and all other
completely centered voices in a stereo mix? Any JACK-capable app
that can do that might work.
Good luck!
--
Kevin
7:20 a.m.
On Wednesday 18 May 2011 06:44:07 Ken Restivo wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal
eliminator tool for linux?
i.e. for karaoke applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along with
dance-pop tracks than in creating her own.
What the karaoke-functions do is mix left-right for the left channel and
right-left for the right channel. That removes what is panned in the middle:
- Most times it removes the lead voice.
- Sometimes it removes some instruments.
- It always removes the low frequencies of bass and bass-drum.
- Sometimes it doesn't remove the voice(s) at all, try Eric Clapton & B.B.
King on "Riding with the king" :-)
So an advanced version of such a plugin does the left-right mixing only for
the higher frequencies and lets the low frequencies pass. KDE had such a
version back in the times of aRts and KDE3...
But its easy to coble something like that together in pd or any other synth
builder.
Have fun,
Arnold
7:27 a.m.
* Kevin Cosgrove [2011-05-17 22:34]:
Ken, doesn't LEFT-RIGHT normally take out the
vocal and all other
completely centered voices in a stereo mix? Any JACK-capable app
that can do that might work.
You don't even need active electronics for that - once this happened to
me because of a short-circuit in an audio cable. I think I had connected
a stand-alone CD player to an amplifier, pressed "play", and when the
music started there was no singing! I was dumbfounded before I realized
what was going on.
Alexandros
8:14 a.m.
I actually tonight started porting the VST plugin kn0ck0ut(
http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) to LV2. It seems like it does a pretty
good job (I can find posts of people raving about it, although I haven't
tried it out myself).
You can see it here: https://github.com/jeremysalwen/kn0ck0ut-LV2 although
it is still a ways from completion.
When it's done hopefully it will give you exactly what you want.
Jeremy
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal
eliminator tool for linux?
i.e. for karaoke applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along with
dance-pop tracks than in creating her own.
Thanks.
-ken
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11:24 a.m.
On 05/18/2011 02:44 PM, Ken Restivo wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal
eliminator tool for linux? i.e. for karaoke applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along with dance-pop tracks than
in creating her own.
There's a LADSPA plugin in the SWH collection that does this, using the
middle-channel removal technique that others have mentioned:
http://plugin.org.uk/ladspa-swh/docs/ladspa-swh.html#tth_sEc2.61
Success will of course vary, but the attenuation slider at least lets
you control how much of the centre channel gets chopped out, so you can
try to eliminate enough vocal without hurting the rest of the track too
much.
Thanks
Leigh
Thanks.
-ken
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9:18 p.m.
Is there no chance you can just give her a cello and
get her involved with chamber music?
--- On Tue, 5/17/11, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover
or vocal eliminator tool for linux? i.e. for karaoke
applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing
along with dance-pop tracks than in creating her own.
Thanks.
9:53 p.m.
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 02:18:13PM -0700, Ivan K wrote:
Is there no chance you can just give her a cello and
get her involved with chamber music?
That'd be lovely. Unfortunately, music is not her main area of interest. I've
tried to teach her several instruments since she was practically an infant; she's
never been into it.
Art, however, is something she's always been as serious about as I've been about
music, practically since birth. So any investment in instruction or equipment in the area
of art pays off. Music, not so much.
I think her sudden interest in dance-pop music is more to do with hormones and the onset
of adolescence than any lasting love of music in general. Cello lessons wouldn't
really stick.
-ken
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--- On Tue, 5/17/11, Ken Restivo
<ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover
or vocal eliminator tool for linux? i.e. for karaoke
applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing
along with dance-pop tracks than in creating her own.
Thanks.
19 May
19 May
1:08 a.m.
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 09:24:44PM +1000, Leigh Dyer wrote:
On 05/18/2011 02:44 PM, Ken Restivo wrote:
> Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal eliminator tool for linux? i.e. for
karaoke applications.
Thanks!
I *knew* I'd seen it somewhere, but Googling for "vocal elminiator linux
jack" didn't turn it up.
Thanks for reminding me.
-ken
-----------
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along with dance-pop tracks than
in creating her own.
There's a LADSPA plugin in the SWH collection that does this, using the
middle-channel removal technique that others have mentioned:
http://plugin.org.uk/ladspa-swh/docs/ladspa-swh.html#tth_sEc2.61
Success will of course vary, but the attenuation slider at least lets
you control how much of the centre channel gets chopped out, so you can
try to eliminate enough vocal without hurting the rest of the track too
much.
Thanks
Leigh
> Thanks.
>
> -ken
3 Jun
3 Jun
9:07 a.m.
Hi Ken,
I've finished porting the vocal remover kn0ck0ut to LV2.
It uses spectral subtraction between the two channels instead of just
subtracting the signals directly, so if you tweak with the parameters, you
probably should be able to get better results. You can download it at
https://github.com/jeremysalwen/kn0ck0ut-LV2
(click "Downloads" and then "0.1" if you just want the source for the
first
release. To build it, just run make and then make install. You will need
fftw and lv2-c++-tools installed already.)
Jeremy
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 4:14 AM, Jeremy Salwen <jeremysalwen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I actually tonight started porting the VST plugin
kn0ck0ut(
http://www.freewebs.com/st3pan0va/) to LV2. It seems like it does a
pretty good job (I can find posts of people raving about it, although I
haven't tried it out myself).
You can see it here: https://github.com/jeremysalwen/kn0ck0ut-LV2
although it is still a ways from completion.
When it's done hopefully it will give you exactly what you want.
Jeremy
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:44 AM, Ken Restivo <ken(a)restivo.org> wrote:
Is there a JACK-capable vocal remover or vocal
eliminator tool for linux?
i.e. for karaoke applications.
My daughter seems to be much more interested in singing along with
dance-pop tracks than in creating her own.
Thanks.
-ken
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