[linux-audio-user] My First Linux Song

[Andres Cabrera]

Hi Shayne,
Line outs from amps usually give a very thin crappy signal. You'll do 
much better miking the amp.

Andres

Shayne O'Connor wrote:
> tim hall wrote:
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>>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 22:12, Shayne O'Connor was like:
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>>>tim hall wrote:
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>>>>Last Sunday 13 February 2005 10:24, Shayne O'Connor was like:
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>>>>>(i should say that, to me, this song has more than a bit of a tribute to
>>>>>the musical forms of Pavement ... and correct tuning in this context has
>>>>>no more relevance than good singing ... )
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>>>>OK, there's no such things as 'correct' granted. However, in my musical
>>>>opinion, this song would sound better 'in tune'.
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>>>i've been listening back to the song, and there is definitely something
>>>ajar with the tuning ... tuning has never been my strong point - after
>>>twelve years of playing guitar, i've only just started tuning the guitar
>>>to the proper pitch. sure, whenever i'd play with keyboards or
>>>something, i'd tune it to that ... otherwise, i'd just tune it to the
>>>low e-string. ha ha, that'll make some of you cringe :)   it's really
>>>gotta stop ... i think i'm just so used to out-of-tuneness from this
>>>sloppy behaviour, as well as most of the music i listen to comes from a
>>>bit of a DIY philosophy ... no excuse for laziness, though.
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>>Well, we've had some interesting discussions on here lately about tuning 
>>guitars, check the archives. I've certainly learned how to improve my tuning, 
>>I've been one of the worst offenders for being slightly out of tune all the 
>>time. 
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> i think i noticed them, but instinctively filed them under "boring" ...
> such is the way my mind works.
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>>I'm beginning to understand that the western 12 tone system is innately 
>>out of tune with the natural harmonics, so if you tune to harmonics, you'll 
>>always be out of tune. The best advice was to tune every other string to the 
>>A string or a harmonic of the A string. That works a treat!
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> i tune to harmonics, so i better look into this!
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>>>>Dodgy guitar sounds require
>>>>much greater production skills to sound right (c.f. World Domination
>>>>Enterprises 'Asbestos Lead Asbestos' or indeed their version of 'Funky
>>>>Town').
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>>>funny you should mention, because i've been listening to rough trade
>>>shops no wave compilation, and "asbestos lead asbestos" is on there ...
>>>also on there, and highly deserving of cross-referencing, is "the
>>>raincoats" version of "lola" ... it's just so sleazy and scummy in every
>>>way ... and the tuning, oh my god it's awful ... the most brilliant
>>>cover i've heard in a while :)
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>>Heh ;-)
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>>>>Recording the guitar through a miked up valve amp would help. 7th
>>>>chords on the guitar tend to produce uncomfortable and distracting
>>>>harmonics if they're not tuned right, you'll notice many guitarists use
>>>>open power chords for this reason.
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>>>i'll try this out - but i think my amp (marshall valvestate) only offers
>>>a solid-state emulation of a valve ... i haven't had much experienc
>>>miking stuff up, so it should be a good learning experience too :)
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>>I thought the valvestate was a valve pre-amp with a tranny power-amp. 
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> you're probly right - it does sound really nice, and it takes a little
> while to warm up which would be a dumb thing to emulate ...
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>>It's 
>>rather good for recording with IIRC because you can get decent distortion 
>>without having to crank it right up.
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> it was given to me by my mum's boyfriend, and it has a line-out plug ...
> which i though would be perfect for getting that nice distortion into my
> computer ... but i haven't been able to get a squeak out of that
> line-out from my amp :(
> 
> shayne
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