[linux-audio-user] ANN: JOST, a simple host for native VST

[Ketil Thorgersen]

Paul Davis skrev:
> On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 14:18 +0100, Michael Bohle wrote:
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>> Hi there,
>>
>> The italian DJ and Developer  Lucio Asnaghi has made a first preview of simple 
>> host for native VST on Linux. Native VST for Linux was founded first by 
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> native VST for linux has yet to produce anything concrete at all,
> AFAICT. developers of VST plugins are *not* writing plugins for linux.
> if you wanted to make native VST on linux easier, the sensible thing to
> do is to implement VSTGUI on top of X11 and/or one or more contemporary
> toolkits. 
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> if the "best native Linux VST plugins for testing" are the MDA plugins,
> then i would have to say that this hasn't accomplished a lot. 
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>> Jorgen Aase /EnergyXT2, but the communication is problematic (also other devs 
>> reported that Jorgen didn't anwer to any mail), so Lucio decided to make an 
>> own host, based on the framework JUCE , because he porting a lot of VST 
>> Synths to Linux. (he also made a great port from ZynAdd Windows VST back to 
>> Linux VST)
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>> It shall be released in March under an open licence. He will build up this 
>> small host JOST (Jack hOST) to a instrumentrack with basic sequencer 
>> functions. Later he will build up a full sequencer named "Juggler", which 
>> should be near to the commercial Tracktion. (JUCE is the framework behind 
>> Tracktion1)
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> really. fascinating. and just how long do you imagine this might take?
> how long do you think traktion took to create? how many people do you
> think work on Traktion at the moment? 
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> there are already a few JACK-aware VST hosting sequencers/DAWs. there is
> already DSSI. there is already a DSSI-VST bridge. there is already a
> run-VST-plugin-as-JACK-client host. what do you actually think is gained
> by starting up yet another project to do this?
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> mike taht told me a cute story of how he spoke at a conference somewhere
> and asked everyone in the room how many of them had their own projects
> going on. Everyone in the room raised their hands. mike said that he
> didn't have to guts to ask "Does anyone ever think that maybe there are
> too many projects?". he did raise the idea that it would be really good
> for *everyone* if people would give some of their attention to other
> projects periodically. i plead guilty to not doing this, its true. 
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This seem to me a very strange post! Why this frustration! Here this guy 
is actually trying to improve what he (and probably others) figures is a 
problem within the world of linux. So he begins to write a program to 
fix it instead of moaning about it. And then he announces it - only to 
get bashed by one of the key figures in the linux audio world. Strange!

Best regards
Ketil Thorgersen