[LAU] Assumed you want to remove pulseaudio - Was: Diagnosing JACK

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Sat Oct 10 09:34:03 UTC 2015


On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 23:10:15 -1000, david wrote:
>On 10/09/2015 10:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:  
>>:: phonon-qt4 optionally requires pulseaudio: PulseAudio support
>>:: phonon-qt5 optionally requires pulseaudio: PulseAudio support  

>I have Aptosid here (Debian Sid) and it doesn't have Pulseaudio
>anything on it. JACK2 works. Audio in Firefox works without JACK (but
>when I'm working on music, I'm not listening to audio in anything else.
>
>IIRC, KDE4 requires Phonon and PulseAudio?  

Phonon for Arch has got no hard dependency. Phonon for Debian requires
just libpulse and pulseaudio is suggested by libpulse, but
it's even not recommended.

https://packages.debian.org/sid/libphonon4
https://packages.debian.org/sid/libpulse0

I don't know if there are any other dependency chains for Qt, but I
don't think so, perhaps there's a dependency chain to pulseaudio for
KDE, I don't know.

Why should a sound server necessarily be a hard dependency for a DE?
Some people are deafothers only want the bell (beep).

If I don't make music, most of the times I only use printf "\a", if I
listen to an audio stream, then I most of the times use plain ALSA, I
even don't launch jackd.

If somebody needs pulseaudio, it's ok for me, we have different needs,
but I can't stand the argumentation that users are quasi forced to use
pulseaudio or to comment out this and that, respl. to suspend/kill
pulseaudio. It's nonsense, pulseaudio can be removed and if not, then
file a bug against a package that forces to install pulseaudio. There
might be a few packages that require pulseaudio, but for most it should
be an optional dependency.

Regards,
Ralf


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