[Consortium] linux audio base djcj linux-sound apps and midi page etc...

Marek Peteraj marpet at naex.sk
Mon Feb 2 19:28:08 EST 2004

On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 23:12, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> Marek Peteraj <marpet at naex.sk> writes:
> > On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 20:08, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
> >> Marek Peteraj <marpet at naex.sk> writes:
> >> 
> >> > But the site says it's targeting the music, recording and broadcast
> >> > industry...
> >> 
> >> Why can't   you just stop  a bit   and suspend your  criticisms  until
> >> something gets actually done ?
> >
> > Because i'd like to see it done right? And help out?
> Accusing people   of "being about to  destroy  the importance of linux
> audio" (cit.) is not a good way of helping out  - I think we can agree
> on this.


> >> The right to criticize is sacred, but I think everybody should use it
> >> with a grain of salt.
> >
> > Just think about what i'm saying and you'll start seeing that it's not
> > at all trolling.
> That's a matter of opinion, and just as you have criticized the way in
> which the  initial consortium  discussions  have been done  (i.e. on a
> closed mailing list, although I already explained  the reasons why the
> list was   closed and I  generally don't  agree that *all* discussions
> must or should  be kept on open mailing  lists) I think you can accept
> the fact that the way in which *you* have  presented your ideas and or
> objections can be interpreted as trolling.

No. Read my very first post which was originally private, teh one meant
for Daniel.

> I mean, if one persons thinks  you are trolling,  s/he could be wrong.
> If  two persons think that, possibilities  they  are wrong gets lower.
> If more  than two  persons maintain  that  your  way of saying  things
> amounts to trolling, I  would stop, take  ad deep breath, and consider
> that maybe *I* might be wrong.

I might, i might not...

> Anyway..
> I think I understood  one of the  main problematic points is the usage
> of the linuxaudio.org domain.  As I already said, I think we can reach
> a compromise   here - have  www.linuxaudio.org be  a generic portal (I
> would anyway add a "this domain was brought to you thanks to the Linux
> Audio Consortium" banner - I think that's  fair) and use subdomains of
> linuxadio.org   for specific tasks,  as have  already been outlined in
> previous threads.
> As far  as your desire  to help  out  goes, that's welcome.   The main
> point is whether you  want to help  the Consortium (as a web designer,
> document writer, legal advisor, whatever)
>  or some  of the sub projects
> which we want to create under the  linuxaudio.org umbrella (I mean the
> domain, not the Linux Audio Consortium).
> If you do not want to  cooperate with the Consortium, that's perfectly
> fine  - but then I would   suggest that you  don't pester Consortium's
> members with  endless e-mails  on  what they are  doing wrong (because
> that *is* trolling).   One e-mail will suffice   - if we don't  follow
> your advice, it simply means we don't  agree with you  or we feel that
> your concerns are not worth enough  - I think  that's a fine position,
> at  least as much  as you  considering the  current Consortium's plans
> wrong is.

You simply haven't thoroughly read my messages. 

Let's forget about it. Good luck with your consortium.

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