[Consortium] Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: linuxaudio.org

Andrea Glorioso andrea.glorioso at agnula.org
Wed Jan 21 17:27:49 EST 2004

Dave Robillard <drobilla at connect.carleton.ca> writes:

> On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 13:54, Andrea Glorioso wrote:
>> Dave Robillard <drobilla at connect.carleton.ca> writes:
>> > ?  Grow up.  I  mentioned a concern  about the list being closed and
>> > all of a sudden I'm being flamed and  made fun of?  (The first thing
>> > I ever said in  this discussion I might  add) Maybe if you're trying
>> > to 'represent'   people    you  should  adopt   a     mannerism  not
>> > characteristic of 14-year-old script kiddies.
>> Sigh.  I guess  next time I'll have  to add a  longer disclaimer.  For
>> the record, I  didn't mean to  take fun on  you.  I was trying (albeit
>> with poor results) to have some fun together (maybe <auto-ironic> is a
>> better tag, I don't know).

> 'Apology' accepted, and sorry for getting offended, but I'm sure you can
> understand - I voiced a concern, and essentially was lumped in with the
> slashdot "Micro$loth sux0rz" crowd.

I guess the real problem was that non-native speakers should never try
to be ironic or in any case try to  bend a foreign language beside its
basic  rules.  Irony is difficult  enough to express and understand in
one's own language.

> Anyway, I think the general lesson to be learned here (for everyone I
> mean) is to tread carefully and mind /everyone's/ opinions and
> concerns.  Not all of us are simply mindbent on linux world domination
> (and some of us are).  

I am (but I aim  at Libre Software world  domination, Linux is just  a
very useful technical tool to do the trick for now).

> Some people  take this whole  freedom thing very seriously,  and get
> mighty  defensive when it's threatened.   That is the whole point of
> our little operating system here, after all..

If you look  at the consortium-p archives you'll  see that I perfectly
agree.  Actually,  some  of my  positions were  discussed and rejected
because they were too extreme (and as such  difficult to implement) in
this regards.  I had  no problems with it,  because  as all things  in
life  you learn to  do compromises if you  think the goal is worth it.
And in the end you always have the  option to opt out  (or not to join
at all).

Just to say  that obviously the consortium  is not entirely made up of
corporate  "wolves"    who don't know   or  don't  care  about freedom
(honestly I don't  see how one could reach  this conclusion looking at
the current members' list, but anyway).

And of course, that doesn't mean I want or I can represent anybody but
myself and the project I currently manage.



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