[linux-audio-dev] [OT] marketing hype [was: Is ladspa actually la-dsp-a? Is JACK the ultimate solution?}

Michael Ost most at museresearch.com
Thu Jun 10 14:54:31 UTC 2004


On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 06:39, Dave Robillard wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-06-10 at 00:10, Michael Ost wrote:
> > On Wed, 2004-06-09 at 15:56, Dave Robillard wrote:
> > > I don't think I could possibly care less who uses 'linux audio'.  I
> > > don't really think anyone else here should either - we should be aiming
> > > to build the best system possible, period.  Not saying "look!  popular
> > > software the people pay money for does this;  therefore we must too!"
> > 
> > I'm with a company trying to make money off of linux audio. While I
> > enjoy the technical/academic discursion (though lots get the
> > subject-line only review! %), I'd like to think this list could support
> > those who mix the market with idealism.... like, well, me.
> >  
> > > If anything, we should be looking at the proprietary music software
> > > world to make sure we avoid repeating their mistakes (ridiculous
> > > duplication of effort, lock-in, and horrid UIs for example), not
> > > duplicating them just because.  (Not to say we can't take positive
> > > things from that world too though)
> > 
> > Should I drop off the list? I ain't the same 'we' you are, I guess. 
> > 
> > While it's true that the proprietary world has made lots of bad s/w, we
> > in the biz have also made lots of great stuff. 
> 
> Hence why I specifically said we can take positive things from the
> proprietary software world too.  You really just want to precisely
> duplicate all popular proprietary software, just because?  I guess we
> aren't the same "we".
> 
> > If y'all care (and I think you should) the best way to encourage the
> > proprietary folks to adopt and put energy into open source efforts is to
> > focus on libraries and not apps. 
> 
> I have to ask:  if you want to develop everything exactly like the
> popular proprietary Windows/MacOS software, and want to facilitate
> proprietary audio software under linux... why the linux in the first
> place?  Obviously you don't care about 'software freedom' all that much,
> so what's the point?
> 
> If you want a system with a bunch of proprietary audio software, why the
> *#$#@ would you be running linux??
> 
> That nice you think I should want proprietary software to get developed
> for linux.  Well, I don't.  IMHO that amounts to throwing away the
> single advantage "we" have, which sounds pretty stupid to me.
> 
> Go develop proprietary software on OSX or something.

I guess this counts as a flame...? Wow. What vitriol. Tone it down if
you want a discussion.

- mo




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