[linux-audio-dev] Request to audio related LiveCD packagers

Andrea Glorioso andrea.glorioso at agnula.org
Wed May 5 07:57:03 UTC 2004


[Takashi, is there a specific reason why you cut off the Cc: list?  Up
to now nobody as objected to it, and I'd like the  discussion to be as
widespread amongst the interested parties as possible]

>>>>> "Takashi" == Takashi Iwai <tiwai at suse.de> writes:

    > i might have minunderstood his arguments, but let me try to
    > straighten the discussion.

    > 1) the firmware loader itself is clean.  the all source codes
    > are provided under GPL.

Agreed.

    > 2) the firmware data is,  so far, provided  also under GPL, too.
    > (i.e. it is redistributable by any person.)  and this looks like
    > a problem.  if the firmware data is regarded as a "program", the
    > corresponding source codes   must   be provided.  but   if  it's
    > nothing but "data"?  how can we prove for/against that?

I'd first  ask to formally  (well,  as  formally  as possible)  define
what's "program" and  what's "data".  Everytime  I tried  to  do it, I
always ended up concluding there was no real  difference, at least not
in any Von Neumann's architecture based machine.

    > 4)  because  of the   suspect  of  (2),  AGNULA  doesn't include
    > alsa-firmware package in the live-cd.

Exactly.

    > so, the discussion  should have nothing to do  with the fact "on
    > which system the   firmware  is loaded".  

I agree.

    > it's the question of distribution.   it it's distributed under a
    >  wrong license, either   change  the license or provide   what's
    > needed additionally.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean with this last sentence.

    > in addition to the above, there is another thing to discuss --
    > whether such gray binary stuffs are included in AGNULA.  AGNULA
    > people must decide it, if the alsa-firmware data is released
    > under a different license.

Sorry, I'm not sure I understand this part neither.

bye,

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