[LAD] Kim did the switch to Linux

[Ralf Mardorf]

Paul Davis wrote:
> 2009/8/5 Grammostola Rosea <rosea.grammostola at gmail.com>:
>
>   
>> Linux audio is a total mess... a normal human being can't work with pro
>> audio on Linux, unless he/she spent hours and hours to learn the little
>> tricks or he has an expert available who helps him...
>>     
>
> What is the purpose of telling this mailing list this?
>   

Maybe he just replied to another mail and wanted to point out some 
problems that are the cause, that there are so less people using Linux 
real-time audio. I guess a developers list isn't a bad place to do it.
I don't have the impression that he wanted to attack you ;).

>> I spent 5 hours last week to help somebody to get his (pro) audio
>> working on Linux... He says to his girlfriend, you better spend a 1000
>> euro's for such a white macbook, then things just work...
>>     
>
> unless of course you need to use an aggregate device and inadvertently
> use an app that resets the sample rate and you lose one "side" of the
> device (playback or capture). or maybe you just use a mac mini with
> the defaults and notice totally crappy sound quality (clicks and ticks
> everywhere) that don't go away until you buy a new audio interface or
> reboot regularly. or you run the OS X update utility and the new wifi
> drivers kill audio latency. or you already have a firewire interface
> and you forget to notice that the macbook you just bought doesn't have
> firewire anymore. etc. etc. etc.
>   

Why do you make this noise?

>> I don't know if I can really recommend Linux for pro audio to normal
>> human beings... at least I should say, you need a lot of time, not easy
>> give up on things and a lot of patience...
>>     
>
> then get off this list and leave us to our playthings. or better yet,
> spend time critiquing the current state of the "out of the box"
> experience with the people who **actually provide**  the out of the
> box experience.
>   

Why do you make this noise?

>> I don't know if there is a connection between LAD and the distro
>> builders, but it seems there is need for change somewhere...
>>
>> Kim did the switch (nice article), but he has an other background then
>> most of the people who works on Desktops and in studios...
>>     
>
> Maybe Kim is precisely representative of the sort of the user LAD-ers
> are interested in. Maybe not. What purpose does your email serve? Do
> you think that anyone on this list is not ACUTELY aware of the
> situation you are describing?

This is why I know so many people who never ever will use Linux, because 
of noise like yours Paul.

For flame-wars please reply off-list ;). I'll ignore it :).

Ralf