[LAD] LADI

[rosea grammostola]

Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
>> rosea grammostola <rosea.grammostola at gmail.com> writes:
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> http://www.google.de/#hl=de&source=hp&q=starting+jack+with+dbus+support&btnG=Google-Suche&meta=&aq=f&oq=starting+jack+with+dbus+support&fp=6e1a413bb204dd20 
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> did link to user wishes, e.g.
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> http://old.nabble.com/dbus-support-for-jack--td26467201.html
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> As a user never ask anything about multimedia at forums for 
> non-audio-distros like openSUSE. Within one question you'll become a 
> troll. Whatever. We can choose an audio-distro.
>
> I do understand that audio-distros can't be state-of-the-art all the 
> time, but I don't understand that even if JACK without dbus support is 
> preferred by some (maybe all) audio-distros, there isn't a second 
> package for JACK supporting dbus.
>
> We users ask for this, but nothing happens.
The amount of users who wants LADI are not that large atm. Mainly 
because they do not know what to expect after the disappointing progress 
of LASH. When LADI preview 0.2 will be released I expect that at least a 
part of the community want to use it, so that the ask for LADI and 
jackdbus support for distro's will grow. That's why I find it important 
to think about how to handle the jackdbus situation now, before many 
users start using jackdbus/Ladish.

I'm not surprised myself that distro's doesn't support it yet. It looks 
like the LA community is searching for ways to handle the situation now. 
Package maintainers will pick up the results of the discussion and 
solutions after. Don't forget they also have to deal with Jack1 and Jack2.
So first, LADI is not that mature atm, all though progressing quickly 
now. Qjackctl doesn't work well with jackdbus atm. It's the question (at 
least for me) what jackdbus means for the use of Ardour. It's still a 
question about the best approach by distro's. Only jackd, only jackdbus 
or both mixed?

When qjackctl can handle jackdbus in a satisfying way, and when it's 
clear what a good approach is, jackd, jackdbus or both... then it would 
be more easy to decide what and how to implement. Maybe you see it in 
the 2010 distro releases, who knows.

Till then, the best way imo, is to have different repo's with jackdbus 
and ladish packages, which people who want to test or use Ladish, can 
use. You might want to contact Nedko about how to package this stuff (I 
think he made some packages for Ubuntu 8.04 a while ago).

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