[LAD] Dumb Idea #27: LV2 host as kernel?

[Jens M Andreasen]

Do plugins have any more sense of time than your average herd of cows?
In goes sunlight and green grass, and out comes a healthy amount of milk
and fresh manure ..

The only kinds of "plugins" that has a sense of time in our world are
those who are recording either audio or midi, and these are those we
would normally prefer to define as our toplevel hosts.

/j


On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 15:46 -0500, David Robillard wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 14:55 -0500, Paul Davis wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Darren Landrum
> > <darren.landrum at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >         If one were to build a "kernel" to a digital audio workstation
> >         that was
> >         itself a bare-bones LV2 host, could things like audio tracks,
> >         midi
> >         tracks, and mixer channels and the like be built as LV2
> >         plug-ins? 
> 
> 
> > if you want to understand why this is hard (not impossible, just
> > hard), go read the ardour source code and find all the places where
> > *unexpected* inter-object dependencies appear. then figure out how to
> > remove them. if you can do that, you'll be able to make a modular
> > system work. if not, you'll at least understand why nobody has else
> > has been able to do it so far.
> 
> Exactly as hard as Jack doing transport...
> 
> Anyway, just because the signal flow aspect of things is patching
> doesn't mean transport has to be.  There's no fundamental reason this is
> any harder than it is to solve in Ardour.  Objects are objects at the
> end of the day.  You could even do it by controlling the transport over
> wires if you wanted to (messages are messages at the end of the day) but
> it would be a huge mess you would want to hide from the user anyway, so
> not a lot of point.
> 
> There's no technological reason this is infeasible or particularly
> difficult, it's just a lot of work.
> 
> -dr
> 
> 
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