[LAD] [OT] Richard Stallman warns against ChromeOS

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Fri Dec 17 11:12:33 UTC 2010


On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 12:05 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 05:57 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Friday, December 17, 2010 05:52:17 am Ralf Mardorf did opine:
> > 
> > > On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 05:30 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 17, 2010 05:15:04 am Philipp �berbacher did opine:
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > I guess it really depends on what you try to achieve. Afaik the
> > > > > average life-span of a HD is puny 2 years.
> > > > 
> > > > Some maybe.  I have a 1Gb seacrate hawk I use on a TRS-80 Color
> > > > Computer that is a good 15 years old, and I hooked up an old Quantum
> > > > P40S beside it the other day that must be close to 18 years old.  No
> > > > bad sectors were found when I did a logical verify of the surface.
> > > 
> > > Ok, my 40MB SCSI Seagate for the Atari is ok for more than 20 years,
> > > heavy usage, several startups a day. Sometimes I need to start it 2 or 3
> > > times, but than it's ok.
> > > 
> > > > > From what I heard the magnetic tapes
> > > > > used by for example ESA a long time ago have a life-span of 80
> > > > > years. If 'store it good and forget' is what you're after then tape
> > > > > seems like a good idea.
> > > > 
> > > > That seems to be a recipe for disaster.  Will there be a working tape
> > > > drive to read those old tapes in even 40 years?
> > > 
> > > For analog tapes Dirk Brauner had Telefunken machines that are as old as
> > > you are and they were better than a lot of modern machines ;).
> > 
> > I'll have to call you on that one, Ralf.  It was some of your folks that 
> > invented the wire recorder in about '38 or '39, and the coated paper tape 
> > was sometime in the later 40's.  I was born in '34.
> 
> I corrected myself, it's just because you're looking younger on your
> photos ;). Of cause, I guess the Telefunk - or was it AEG? - machines
> were without tubes. The magnetic tape head had visible slots.

Resp. IIRC the IO audio amps were build with tubes!

> 
> Because the tapes were stored spooled to the end, there even was no
> audible crosstalk at the beginning of the recordings.





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