[LAD] twice as loud

[fons at kokkinizita.net]

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:37:23PM +0100, Folderol wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:24:24 +0200
> fons at kokkinizita.net wrote:
> 
> > We all agree on what 'red' means. Because we have learned
> > the meaning of that word by association.  But do we 'see'
> > the same thing ? AFAIK, that is impossible to verify.
> 
> This brings back memories of long arguments amongst my friends (when
> we were all young and spotty).
> 
> We thought we'd pinned it down when someone suggested that the only way
> to be sure, would be if humans developed telepathy - a whole 'nother
> arguing point :)
> 
> That got shot down when someone suggested that the brain would have to
> do some form of translation to telepathic 'waves' and how could we be
> sure that everyone would translate the same way :) 

Yes. This was pointed out by Wittgenstein some 0.75 centuries
ago - you can't prove consciousness.

Even if you torture someone and he's screaming like hell, you
can always say "it's a robot progranmed to act like this when
given the stimuli we are giving it", and there's no way to
disprove that.

Ciao,

-- 
FA

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