[LAD] twice as loud

Ralf Mardorf ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
Sat Jul 24 16:46:06 UTC 2010


On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 12:33 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:31:32 pm Renato did opine:
> 
> > On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:03:15 -0400
> > 
> > Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:02:40 pm Ralf Mardorf did opine:
> > > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 17:22 +0200, Arnold Krille wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 24 July 2010 16:22:29 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 10:07 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > > I have gotten up and left many a night club because the music
> > > > > > > was too loud.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > OT, but anyway: This is a big problem in Germany. I only visit
> > > > > > night clubs when a girlfriend 'force' me to do it and I always
> > > > > > wear hearing protection. Now it becomes topic again: At those
> > > > > > high levels, I don't have any feeling for what could be half as
> > > > > > loud. I only have an idea of 'half as loud', when the acoustic
> > > > > > pressure doesn't hurt.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That is because your ear shuts down with a bone bending to protect
> > > > > itself to anything above. That bending is what hurts...
> > > > > So you hearing goes into saturation for anything above that level.
> > > > > Which makes it quite hard to determine "half as loud" when you
> > > > > don't know how loud it really is...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have fun,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Arnold
> > > > 
> > > > So, without being aware of it, I know that I don't know the real
> > > > loudness. Is it the same for everybody or just for people who have
> > > > the feeling to protect their ears, resp. to get out of this
> > > > loudness hell?
> > > > 
> > > > A lot of people 'join' this hell. What's about those people?
> > > 
> > > I think many of them use it as an anesthetic.
> > 
> > yes, especially if coupled with drugs which seems to me to be an
> > increasing trend
> > 
> > renato
> 
> And that, in and of itself, is a scathing indictment of our society today.  
> People should not have to reduce themselves to an un-thinking, alcohol or 
> drug addled state in order to 'have fun'.


This is very OT, but weed and alcohol could make people survive, assumed
that they are able to stop it, resp. some very known guys were able to
handle heroin + alcohol a whole live, e.g. William S. Burroughs,
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Burroughs1983_crop_b.jpg&filetimestamp=20080810122043.

"He says: You know, I can see two tiny pictures of myself
And there's one in each of your eyes. [...]" from a Lauri Anderson
album, but much more funny is "the advice to young people" from a
Material album :).




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