[LAD] aBLETON lINK

[Ronald Stewart]

people still use abelton?
geez with NI tractor ns8 I can't imagine or phathom needing a slow
antiquated midi based performance piece LOL

Ron Stewart

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Robin Gareus <robin at gareus.org> wrote:

> On 09/20/2016 01:40 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> >
> >> On 09/20/2016 07:03 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Because netjack isn't good enough
> >>
> >> correct.
> >>
> >> jack can have a single timebase master and likewise netjack has a single
> >> net-master.
> >>
> >> Ableton-Link is decentralized: Multiple performers can interact with
> >> each other on an equal level (no master/slave semantics).
> >>
> >> It's not groundbreaking tech. Laptop orchestras and the likes have used
> >> similar techniques since a while, but all prior-art that I know is
> ad-hoc.
> >>
> >> As far as I know this is the only protocol concerning *musical-time*
> >> that's spec'ed out, has a cross-platform reference implementation and
> >> potential to find its way into hardware.
> >>
> >> Feel free to criticize the protocol on a technical level or hunt for
> >> bugs in the implementation ... or simply ignore it silently.
> >>
> >
> > So then the next question would be is there any reason NOT to integrate
> it
> > directly into JACK?
> >
>
> There's an existing feature request already: [1]
>
>
> JACK cannot be slaved to anything. jackd is always master, so there's a
> conceptual conflict.
>
> Closest concept is jack-timebase master [2]. A client can provide
> musical-time to jack and thereby to all jack clients that support jack
> transport.
>
> So yes, there are some reasons to not *directly* integrate it, but like
> existing jack tools [3] (jack_lsp, jack_connect, jack_transport,...) it
> could be included with jack one way or another. Seamless integration is
> possible. It just needs someone to do the work.
>
> Rui already has a working standalone prototype (no timebase support yet,
> but it's a good start).
>
> There are also some technical details to be sorted out: e.g. the current
> Link reference implementation requires C++11, jack-tools are C89... but
> those are details.
>
>
> Cheers!
> robin
>
>
> [1] https://github.com/jackaudio/jack2/issues/231
> [2] http://jackaudio.org/files/docs/html/group__TransportControl.html
> [3] https://github.com/jackaudio/tools
>
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