[LAD] Is Piperware a successor to Jack/Pulseaudio?

[Fernando Lopez-Lezcano]

On 7/6/21 12:41 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 12:37:55PM +0100, Will Godfrey wrote:
> 
>> At one time you added things that you wanted. These days you have to remove
>> what you don't want - but might not even know was there until it interferes
>> with what you want to do.
> 
> This is *exactly* what I profoundly hate about the way Linux and in
> particular systemd based distros are going. After every update you
> have to scan a zillion places to check if anything has been added
> that needs to be  opted-out. If that is possible at all.

Yes, yes, agreed. And most of the time you cannot remove stuff, and that 
is by design. Plus it is more and more difficult to find _where_ things 
are configured, and how.

Sometimes it is explained, but it is pages and pages of "stuff" and 
after a bit I just give up.

I long for simple text configuration files, you change it, restart 
whatever it is if it is not dynamic, and it works! (or not :-) Maybe 
this is just confirmation that I am old now, ha ha.

>> I originally moved over to Linux to avoid this sort of thing.
> 
> Indeed. And that becomes more and more difficult. I don't want to
> add to the systemd bashing chorus here - I originally liked the
> idea of a simple and dependable process/service supervisor.
> But there's one thing that the systemd advocates never made very
> clear, and that is that the main reason why systemd was created
> was to make Linux more 'corporate friendly'.

< I read somewhere it was for embedded systems or something like that >

> In other words, to
> take away control from the end user, whose only remaining freedom
> is to opt-out, with all the work and effort that takes, of what is
> dictated by some central administration. And of course the distro
> maintainers like it, as it gives them the same power.
> 
> I'll give PW its chance when the developers tell me it's ready for
> real life. Which will mean a session with around 15 jack clients
> with a total of 800 or so ports. Should run without hickups while
> watching a youtube movie and compiling a kernel at the same time
> (which I can do now without any problem).

Then don't try PW yet :-)

Big ardour sessions (34 3rd order tracks) would just hang in there 
forever until I just killed ardour (no patience, I know). I suspect (no 
proof) that new port creation is really slow compared to the real jackd.

What distro are you using these days?
-- Fernando